Is Zuffa just adding to the "belt" problem?

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  • ELPacman
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    #1

    Is Zuffa just adding to the "belt" problem?

    I understand that these guys came in and think they can just take over and say, if you're not part of Zuffa, you're not champion all a sudden. So now we'll have folks that might not want to ditch their hard earned WBC/IBF/WBO/WBA and once again, we have champions residing all over the place. This only made worse since Zuffa is only going to fight Zuffa fighters it seems to keep it all in-house. So you got that organization doing its own thing whether for better or worse and then promoters outside still continuing to put together fights with the belt organizations like nothing is different.
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    #2
    uhm.... yes

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #3
      It’s not a big deal to me. That said, when PBC tried doing my this, NSB was in an uproar saying it was a problem.

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      • Spray_resistant
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        This won't last long, UFC was able to do this because it had the benefit of organizing it that way from the start. Sanctioning bodies are interwoven into how boxing operates, can't just make your own league out of nowhere and expect fans to accept Zuffa belt holders as legit champions.

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        • IronDanHamza
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          Can't see it gaining legitimacy but hey, I never thought the WBO would ever be a legitimate world title and it became one, so

          You never know.

          There was originally only one belt in boxing, all of a sudden they starting bringing new made up belts in for no reason like the WBC belt and nobody liked but it but they swiftly became legitimate when the right fighter held them and fast forward 50 or so years and its as if they were always there.

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          • LA_2_Vegas
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            #6
            The Ali Revival Act will require all sanctioning bodies and UBOs to only allow one belt per weight class per body.

            It would eliminate all the secondary, regular, super champions the sanctioning bodies have created out of thin air. It also provides rules for how interims are issued. So that is about 20 or more belts gone overnight.

            Even with Zuffa creating their 8 belts, it would still be a net negative in total amount of trinkets and belts in the sport due to the new rules. At least until other promoters start to create their own belts, if they opt to do so.

            Theoretically, if each promoter created one belt per class, we could end up with the same amount of belts, but given there is just one per weight class - those belts might be more easily understood by fans than they are now.

            NOBODY, hardcore fan or otherwise, knows anything about regular, super and all that other stuff. Who is the LW champ, who is WW, who is HW - that is simple.

            Yes, we might be asking who is PBC WW champ, who is the Zuffa WW champ, but even that might be more relatable. Fans might understand those are not "world championships" but do have some value to the fighter. Because sometimes the fighter makes the belt. For example, IBF stripping Opetetia doesn't suddenly make me want to watch the next CW IBF title fight. I don;'t give much valie to Zuffa belt yet, but it's on Jai's waist so I have to pay attention at least.


            All that needs to happen is for Zuffa fighters(and other promoters) to be allowed to compete on Riyadh Season cards for the historical belts. Showcases, development, in-house rivalries, prospect/prospect etc etc can take place with their own rankings, and their own belt in-house. The top fighters will ideally be allowed to fight other champions - maybe they vacate the promoter belt for that time period and are placed back into the in-house rankings. IDK I am just thinking how this could go


            Conor Benn isn't fighting on a Zuffa exclusive card for his first fight with them. I understand that could be more related to them trying ot break into the UK market, but it could be a sign they will have fighters competing on a bigger stage.

            There just needs to be a mechanism to allow/force these cross-promotional fights and it looks like it might be Riyahd, Netflix, maybe Amazon, etc. They would be the HBOs/SHO

            My question for now is since a promoter can make their own belts, would that take away the incentive for promoters to be trying to sway the sanctioning bodies with their rankings - part of the reason they all do this is just so they can put "TITLE FIGHT" on the fight poster so people will buy tickets.

            Since they have the power to do that on their own, is there less incentive to do all the underhanded stuff we know goes on - can sanctioning bodies just be in the business of rankings fighters in a meritocratic way - or is it just worse now with Turki/Ring?
            Last edited by LA_2_Vegas; 03-11-2026, 03:28 PM.

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            • NihonJim
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              #7
              It's the pbc belt all over again.

              A Mickey mouse belt with no legacy, no history and it even looks trash.

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              • Grandma Lover
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                #8
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                It’s not a big deal to me. That said, when PBC tried doing my this, NSB was in an uproar saying it was a problem.
                They were in an uproar cause they were a bunch of posters at the time. Now it's like 8 people on here.

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                • Boxing 112
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  Can't see it gaining legitimacy but hey, I never thought the WBO would ever be a legitimate world title and it became one, so

                  You never know.

                  There was originally only one belt in boxing, all of a sudden they starting bringing new made up belts in for no reason like the WBC belt and nobody liked but it but they swiftly became legitimate when the right fighter held them and fast forward 50 or so years and its as if they were always there.
                  There has not been 1 belt in over 100 years. Jack Dempsey over 100 years ago at the same time held the NYSAC belt the NBA (now WBA) belt and the Ring belt. But people love going on about need to go back to 1 belt days but don't even know when that day is, there were multiple belts even in their great grandads days.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    Originally posted by Boxing 112

                    There has not been 1 belt in over 100 years. Jack Dempsey over 100 years ago at the same time held the NYSAC belt the NBA (now WBA) belt and the Ring belt. But people love going on about need to go back to 1 belt days but don't even know when that day is, there were multiple belts even in their great grandads days.
                    Yeah I know there was other belts and also coloured titles and the rest but none of them were really deemed legitimate is what I'm saying. Unlike decades later when they were.

                    My point was Zuffa could join them, maybe. Who knows.

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