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  • SteveM
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    #11
    Originally posted by MalevolentBite
    Pretty Boy Floyd was an offensive assassin. People forgot about the pretty boy era and Just remember Money Mayweather.

    Stevenson doesnt take any risk when he fights, he likes to coast, plus there's nobody in this era that can push him to make adjustments. Let's be honest the Mexicans & Latinos of the 70s, 80s and 90s are gone skill wise. Theres no Chavez, Arguello, Morales, Barrera, Sanchez to push Stevenson to make adjustments.

    Him and Devin Haney can run the table respectfully. Stevenson should be the one fighting in Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico is messing up, thats your new second coming not Xander lol.

    Theres nothing out there that can beat Stevenson at 140. Boxing isnt the same anymore. Theres no Aaron Pryor, Azuma Nelson, Oscar De La Hoya or even a Shane Mosley ( lightweight) out there now a days.

    We don't even have a good European / American pressure fighter ( Mancini or Hatton).

    No technically front foot fighter like Kosta.
    Well thats all your opinion - and if that assessment would be true I we might as well just anoint S.S as the second coming. Personally I want to see him prove it - lets see him unify at 140 and beat a few solid contenders > Keyshawn, Gary Russell, Tito Mercado after he has another fight, Muratalla if he moves up or Shakur moves back to 135. Styles make fights and I'd love to see Andy Cruz vs Shakur as well - technical excellence.

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    • landotter
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      #12
      Lopez has been overrated, but that does not take away from this win. I just was not interested to see this fight. I respect Stevenson, and yes I would watch any of his fights... on free TV. I am a boxing fan. I understand and respect what Stevenson brings. His excellence. But he is not stimulating TV. I bring up a couple of other sport analogies:

      Only true Baseball fans like pitcher duels and 1-0 baseball games. Casual fans want 7-5 offensive explosions.

      Only true football fans like well played, defensive hard hitting games that end up 14-10. Casual football fans want 35-30 shoot outs.

      No casual combat sports viewer wants a defensive strategist against a counter puncher. Only true boxing fans could.

      And like it or not, without casual fans a sport suffers. It NEEDS the casual fan to thrive. Boxing is not thriving right now. The sport does not need Stevenson as he is right now. It needs him to get a little angry in there and put opponents out. He can do it. He just knows he does not need to. So boxing loses more casual fans......

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #13
        Let him just be his own man.

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        • LA_2_Vegas
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          #14
          It would have been perceived as somewhat of a more interesting fight had it been scored properly and the commentators not so eager to get SS over.

          Like, what SS did in the early rounds was relatively exciting, it looked like he might even get a knockdown or stoppage later on. But then he could never get back to that after the middle of round 5. And what Teo did in the 2nd half with body punching, jumping in/out, changing levels, making SS miss here and there was also pretty decent. I'm not saying it was all that great, obviously it never caught fire, the crowd was very lame for NY....but I thought Teo was getting slightly better as it went on, it was getting more interesting not less, but it was never framed like that by commentators, the judges were giving no credit - so now it comes off as SS just cruising all night - they say good win but boring, which hurts his perception. He wasn't cruising, he met some resistance, Lopez clearly changed his approach.

          Pretty sure we would have seen a lot more of Crawford going crazy ringside if Shakur was really doing all that, TC didn't do much after those early rounds.

          I like the way SS has fought in the last two fights, he's just getting too much credit for it on the scorecards IMO, i' don't think those were 11-1 fights.

          Fans need a reason to think an "upset' can happen, and that's not just for haters, but for your own fans who should be thinking they NEED to show up to support you, and get loud while they're doing that, because anything can happen - rewarding too much of the wrong stuff,or not giving credit to the opponent, who in this case was a champion, removes that and there is less incentive to watch, unlike Floyd who always gave you reasons to tune-in.
          Last edited by LA_2_Vegas; Yesterday, 05:50 PM.

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          • jackson414
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            #15
            he needs to start stepping up his competition

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            • MalevolentBite
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              #16
              Originally posted by SteveM

              Well thats all your opinion - and if that assessment would be true I we might as well just anoint S.S as the second coming. Personally I want to see him prove it - lets see him unify at 140 and beat a few solid contenders > Keyshawn, Gary Russell, Tito Mercado after he has another fight, Muratalla if he moves up or Shakur moves back to 135. Styles make fights and I'd love to see Andy Cruz vs Shakur as well - technical excellence.
              He and keyshawn will not fight each other. Besides that. Thats fair. I think he beats all of those fighters but I will watch it regarless like the Teo fight. Even if I know the outcome. Lucky punches and off nights do happen

              if you read my post with reading comprehension. I am not calling him the second coming. I am saying he is in a weak era of competition based on his skill sets. Just like Crawford. Not saying he is sugar ray leonard who had elite competition.
              Last edited by MalevolentBite; Yesterday, 06:34 PM.

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              • ELPacman
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                #17
                Shakur gives me mixed vibes. He's from Jersey. I'm from Jersey. He's half Rican, I'm half Rican. He's from Newark, I've had some good times in Newark. Watched some awesome fights at bars there and eaten some real good food around the city. That said, the dude is missing the killer instinct that can take him to a SUPER STAR level.

                Watching the fight and seeing Teo completely outclassed, I couldn't help but think if Shakur stepped on the gas or went into another gear, he might stop Teo. Instead he was perfectly fine throwing out the jab when Teo would get brave and that would stop all momentum. Yes, it was a great performance by Shakur to show how he can easily shut someone down, but as a boxing fan who loves drama, let's be honest, like a Mayweather fight, there was nearly no drama in the fight. An easy, UD.

                The one thing I can appreciate most however is that Shakur NEVER went backwards. He was literally standing in front of Teo the entire fight and Teo couldn't do anything. When you hear defensive type fighters being runners or whatnot, Shakur was NOT this vs Teo.

                I'll continue to watch Shakur because of the commonalities I referenced, but I'll never say the dude was this crazy exciting type fighter that was must see TV. Feels like another Mayweather without the total Dbag personality.

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                • boxingitis
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ELPacman
                  Shakur gives me mixed vibes. He's from Jersey. I'm from Jersey. He's half Rican, I'm half Rican. He's from Newark, I've had some good times in Newark. Watched some awesome fights at bars there and eaten some real good food around the city. That said, the dude is missing the killer instinct that can take him to a SUPER STAR level.

                  Watching the fight and seeing Teo completely outclassed, I couldn't help but think if Shakur stepped on the gas or went into another gear, he might stop Teo. Instead he was perfectly fine throwing out the jab when Teo would get brave and that would stop all momentum. Yes, it was a great performance by Shakur to show how he can easily shut someone down, but as a boxing fan who loves drama, let's be honest, like a Mayweather fight, there was nearly no drama in the fight. An easy, UD.

                  The one thing I can appreciate most however is that Shakur NEVER went backwards. He was literally standing in front of Teo the entire fight and Teo couldn't do anything. When you hear defensive type fighters being runners or whatnot, Shakur was NOT this vs Teo.

                  I'll continue to watch Shakur because of the commonalities I referenced, but I'll never say the dude was this crazy exciting type fighter that was must see TV. Feels like another Mayweather without the total Dbag personality.
                  Don't mentiom Shakur and Fight in the same sentance. He clearly won the "match" is more reasonable. Dude has no cajones to go for the kill because he is afraid if he throws more he will get counter. Jab and step back for 12 rounds.

                  Shakur, Haney, "Money" Mayweather

                  Shakur - Jab and step back(defence)
                  Mayweather and Haney- Jab and clinch
                  Rince and repeat. It's hit and not get hit. All it matters that you get the W.
                  Last edited by boxingitis; Yesterday, 11:11 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee
                    Yeah being that defensive minded is a real double edged sword. On one hand you will be basically unbeatable because you are fighting Olympic style, you are there to win on points. So all the "pure boxing" fans will call you a great and hoot and holler about how amazing you are, no one can touch you, etc.

                    But the casual fan likes action, knockdowns and fighting. And they won't pay for UD snoozers.

                    Rare is the fighter who has the defense and offense to stop good fighters while not getting hit. There is a reason the pro's do not have Olympic rules. Nobody will pay to watch Olympic boxing.

                    This is the thing that "pure boxing" fans never seem to understand. Reaching for greatness means to take risks. Pro boxing is about the fans who pay to see the fights. To be defensively AND offensively great is what makes a pro boxer great or not.



                    I like Shakur. Maybe he will one day commit to his punches a bit more and become a star.
                    Commit to his punches a bit more and become a star.. yup that's what happened with Beterbiev, Crawford etc.right?! They've been stars all this time and didn't have to wait till they where almost 40 to barely get exposure on mainstream news outlets.

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                    • SouthpawRight
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Deleted
                      Originally posted by boxingitis
                      Originally posted by ELPacman
                      Shakur gives me mixed vibes. He's from Jersey. I'm from Jersey. He's half Rican, I'm half Rican. He's from Newark, I've had some good times in Newark. Watched some awesome fights at bars there and eaten some real good food around the city. That said, the dude is missing the killer instinct that can take him to a SUPER STAR level.

                      Watching the fight and seeing Teo completely outclassed, I couldn't help but think if Shakur stepped on the gas or went into another gear, he might stop Teo. Instead he was perfectly fine throwing out the jab when Teo would get brave and that would stop all momentum. Yes, it was a great performance by Shakur to show how he can easily shut someone down, but as a boxing fan who loves drama, let's be honest, like a Mayweather fight, there was nearly no drama in the fight. An easy, UD.

                      The one thing I can appreciate most however is that Shakur NEVER went backwards. He was literally standing in front of Teo the entire fight and Teo couldn't do anything. When you hear defensive type fighters being runners or whatnot, Shakur was NOT this vs Teo.

                      I'll continue to watch Shakur because of the commonalities I referenced, but I'll never say the dude was this crazy exciting type fighter that was must see TV. Feels like another Mayweather without the total Dbag personality.
                      Don't mentiom Shakur and Fight in the same sentance. He clearly won the "match" is more reasonable. Dude has no cajones to go for the kill because he is afraid if he throws more he will get counter. Jab and step back for 12 rounds.

                      Shakur, Haney, "Money" Mayweather

                      Shakur - Jab and step back(defence)
                      Mayweather and Haney- Jab and clinch
                      Rince and repeat. It's hit and not get hit. All it matters that you get the W.
                      Commit to his punches a bit more and become a star.. yup that's what happened with Beterbiev, Crawford etc.right?! They've been stars all this time and didn't have to wait till they were almost 40 to barely get exposure on mainstream news outlets.
                      Shakur has glass hands like his hero Floyd and *favorite active boxer Top Soviet Bivol [yes he said in a recent interview that Bivol is his favorite active]

                      Fighters don’t get paid extra to sacrifice more health in boxing. No reason for glass hand boxers to shorten their careers by going for the ko

                      TBud and Buff Guy Artur both have these dry personalities that don’t sell fights

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                      563 likes, 16 comments - franksnobleart on January 5, 2026: "@shakurstevenson tells us his favourite fighter... @bivol_d #boxing".

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