Crawford a top 10 ATG is DISTURBING

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  • NihonJim
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    Crawford a top 10 ATG is DISTURBING

    What brand of CRACK is kellerman smoking

    His best wins are a version of Spence with surgically repaired HEAD who looked like a melted waxwork of Spence and old over hyped Canelo

    And that makes you top 10 GOAT

    put down that pipe, this guy is lucky to crack the top 100
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    The only 3 division undisputed champion in the WBA/WBC era
    One of only three 4 division lineal world champions in history (Mayweather, Pacquiao)
    One of only six 5 division world titlists, and two have asterisks (Hearns*, Leonard**, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Pacquiao)

    *Hearns won a WBO belt before the WBO was recognized as a major belt
    **Leonard won his 168 and 175 belts in the same fight at a catchweight

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      #3
      Originally posted by famicommander
      The only 3 division undisputed champion in the WBA/WBC era
      One of only three 4 division lineal world champions in history (Mayweather, Pacquiao)
      One of only six 5 division world titlists, and two have asterisks (Hearns*, Leonard**, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Pacquiao)

      *Hearns won a WBO belt before the WBO was recognized as a major belt
      **Leonard won his 168 and 175 belts in the same fight at a catchweight
      WHO you whoop trumps labels and titles

      Harry Henry Sam Ezzard were snubbed of championships

      TBud issue is he has only one HOF opp maybe 2

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      • NihonJim
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        #4
        ****ing Internet nerds ranking fighters on titles won.

        Josh taylor was an undisputed champion

        Titles dont mean ****

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          #5
          Originally posted by NihonJim
          ****ing Internet nerds ranking fighters on titles won.

          Josh taylor was an undisputed champion

          Titles dont mean ****
          who josh Taylor again

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          • famicommander
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            #6
            Originally posted by NihonJim
            ****ing Internet nerds ranking fighters on titles won.

            Josh taylor was an undisputed champion

            Titles dont mean ****
            Look at the names he put himself on those lists with.

            Mayweather, Pacquiao, De La Hoya, Hearns, Leonard, and Crawford.

            The fact that those six specific names are the only ones to do those things should be a pretty big indicator of the caliber of fighter it takes to accomplish such feats.

            You don't end up on a three man list with Floyd and Manny AND a six man list with Floyd, Manny, Oscar, Leonard, and Hitman by accident. Get a grip on reality. If his accomplishments were trivial everyone would be on that list.

            And Josh Taylor had an absolutely fantastic run at 140, I don't know why you're acting like he was some bum. He beat Miguel Vazquez, Viktor Postol, Ivan Baranchyk, Regis Prograis, and Jose Carlos Ramirez during his run to undisputed. He's not the same guy he was back then, but it doesn't erase what he did.

            And if you want to get down to Crawford's actual resume (TBRB rankings used, secondary/interim belts ignored):
            W vs #3 Ricky Burns UD 12 (fmr. WBO 130; reigning WBO 135; future WBA 140)
            W vs #7 Yuriorkis Gamboa TKO 9 (fmr. WBA/IBF 126)
            W vs #2 Raymundo Beltran UD 12 (future WBO 135)
            W vs #9 Thomas Dulorme TKO 6
            W vs #1 Viktor Postol UD 12 (reigning WBC 140)
            W vs #3 John Molina TKO 8
            W vs #9 Felix Diaz RTD 10 (Diaz ranked at 147, fight at 140)
            W vs #1 Julius Indongo KO 3 (reigning WBA/IBF 140)
            W vs #4 Jeff Horn TKO 9 (reigning WBO 147)
            W vs Amir Khan TKO 6 (fmr. WBA/IBF 140)
            W vs #10 Egidijus Kavaliauskas TKO 9
            W vs Kell Brook TKO 4 (fmr. IBF 147)
            W vs #4 Shawn Porter TKO 10 (fmr. IBF 147; WBC 147)
            W vs #9 David Avanesyan KO 6
            W vs #1 Errol Spence Jr. TKO 9 (reigning WBA/WBC/IBF 147)
            W vs #3 Israil Madrimov UD 12 (reigning WBA 154)
            W vs #C Canelo Alvarez UD 12 (reigning undisputed 168; fmr lineal/Ring/WBA/WBC/IBF 160; WBO 175; WBC/Ring 154)

            Other notable victories: Breidis Prescott, Andrey Klimov, Dierry Jean, Hank Lundy, Jose Benavidez Jr

            15-0 vs top 10
            10-0 vs top 5
            5-0 vs #1 (or #2 if Crawford was #1)
            12-0 vs fighters that won a legitimate world title
            6-0 vs reigning world titlists
            3-0 in unification fights
            20-0 in world title fights
            7-0 in lineal world championship fights
            42-0-0-0 overall record, 31 KOs

            135: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBO
            140: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed
            147: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed
            154: WBA
            160: (none)
            168: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed

            Not that many guys in the history of the sport can boast 15 top ten TBRB/Ring wins, and even fewer have 10 top five wins.
            Last edited by famicommander; 01-03-2026, 12:35 AM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by famicommander
              The only 3 division undisputed champion in the WBA/WBC era
              One of only three 4 division lineal world champions in history (Mayweather, Pacquiao)
              One of only six 5 division world titlists, and two have asterisks (Hearns*, Leonard**, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Pacquiao)

              *Hearns won a WBO belt before the WBO was recognized as a major belt
              **Leonard won his 168 and 175 belts in the same fight at a catchweight
              Only of one that got managed to avoid fighting all the prime late 20s and early 30s batch of boxers from the era at WW and SWW, MW and the one time it happened 12-0 Madrimov couldve gone either way.

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                Crawford is a great... But I do find it amazing that people rank him over Usyk.

                What Usyk has done is unbelievable really. Crawford beating Canelo was amazing... But, not surprising.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by M312
                  Crawford is a great... But I do find it amazing that people rank him over Usyk.

                  What Usyk has done is unbelievable really. Crawford beating Canelo was amazing... But, not surprising.
                  No, i d not have bud top ten. I believe if he wins some more than he could be. Best benevidez and a 160 title. Rematch nelo

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                  • M312
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by hugh grant

                    No, i d not have bud top ten. I believe if he wins some more than he could be. Best benevidez and a 160 title. Rematch nelo
                    Top 10 is a real stretch for sure.

                    I do think it would be fair to have Usyk top 10 (or 15) though.

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