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  • djtmal
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    #71
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

    The majority have Floyd as I keep saying.
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    Manny has just as many

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      #72
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      Agreed. So why don’t you and the other pac slurpers listen to Max’s colleagues and peers when they all vote in these polls and Floyd comes out ahead?

      Do you not see the irony in your post? You, djtmal and Hugh grant are the you tubers with 2 followers and an opinion.
      I don't mind them agreeing he comes out ahead in something. What is it that Max said he comes out ahead on? I know in one speech he said Floyd has a case for an ATG. I don't mind agreeing to that. Though he then says Pac should be higher than Floyd P4P.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #73
        Originally posted by ELPacman

        I don't mind them agreeing he comes out ahead in something. What is it that Max said he comes out ahead on? I know in one speech he said Floyd has a case for an ATG. I don't mind agreeing to that. Though he then says Pac should be higher than Floyd P4P.
        You totally dodged the point. lol.

        why don’t you and the other pac fans listen to Max’s colleagues and peers when they all vote in these polls and Floyd comes out ahead?

        You make a valid point but it applies to the pac fans that pretend that all who vote Floyd ahead of Manny lack any credibility.

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        • djtmal
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          #74
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn


          You make a valid point but it applies to the pac fans that pretend that all who vote Floyd ahead of Manny lack any credibility.
          You just in denial that a legit boxing historian like Max Kellerman has Manny ahead of Floyd in his top ten all time.

          Has Manny #2 and Floyd #7?

          Thats gotta be a blow to the Floyd Boy ego.

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            #75
            Originally posted by djtmal

            You just in denial that a legit boxing historian like Max Kellerman has Manny ahead of Floyd in his top ten all time.

            Has Manny #2 and Floyd #7?

            Thats gotta be a blow to the Floyd Boy ego.
            why do you keep reposting this? I didn’t deny anything. I just asked for a link.

            Just one opinion. The majority of opinions have Floyd ahead of Manny.

            Which is why he finished ahead of manny in the polls I posted.

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            • djtmal
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              #76
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn



              Just one opinion.

              It's Max Kellerman though. He actually watched both those guys ringside so him not just running with Floyd speaks volumes

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                #77
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                The majority of opinions have Floyd ahead of Manny.
                Max Kellerman putting Manny miles ahead of Floyd speaks to the quality not the quantity

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                • djtmal
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn



                  Which is why he finished ahead of manny in the polls I posted.
                  You didn't post any polls.

                  Oh you must be talking about when they surveyed 10 Floyd boys who was the best of Floyd's generation?

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by ELPacman

                    Exactly. There has to be a point when you actually listen to folks that know their boxing history and put together pieces to make sense of it, otherwise who the hell else are you going to listen to? That kid on youtube with 2 followers and an opinion? lol
                    Specifically to this point, and not to Kellerman's list as a whole. But what access to information does Kellerman have that most other's don't? This being the information age, we all have the same access to fighter's records, resumes, news articles, and fight footage. This isn't to say that some don't have better discernment as to reviewing the data, or that some "kid's on youtube" don't make assessments without yet reviewing the data. This is just to say that we now have access to the same information, so what makes Max Kellerman (who I only single out because he was the topic of the post) any more of an expert than anyone else.

                    There should be no Appeal to Authority Fallacy, rather let the data (which we all have equal access to) be the authority.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by djtmal
                      1. Sugar Ray Robinson
                      2. Manny Pacquiao
                      3. Henry Armstrong
                      4. Muhammad Ali
                      5. Harry Greb
                      6. Sam Langford
                      7. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                      8. Roberto Duran
                      9. Pernell Whitaker
                      10. Terrance Crawford

                      Me personally I would have Duran and Pernell ahead of Floyd

                      Srl is missing so Crawford would have to come off
                      I like his list, but i don't think Floyd belongs on it.

                      Manny's WAYYYYYY too high

                      I love Bud, but I can't put Bud up there with his resume, even if I do believe it's not his fault he was ducked for years.

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