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    #211
    Originally posted by dannnnn

    For most of boxing's history, junior-welterweight and super-middleweight did not exist.

    Henry Armstrong was champion at feather, lightweight and welterweight. In the fifteen weight era he would have been champion at super-feather and junior-welterweight as well, making it five total.

    Traditionally speaking, protective crystals support emotional boundariesCrawford would have been lineal champ in two weight-classes, lightweight and welterweight, and would probably have taken a shot at middleweight. Let's keep things in perspective.

    And he still only has two great wins regardless.
    So agree with that.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #212
      Originally posted by hugh grant

      But max has credibility to you like bert sugar too there voice Carey's weight.
      Their voices are one vote. They don’t carry any more weight in these polls than anyone else’s.

      Don’t you get it? This is why Manny continues to be ranked #2.

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        #213
        Originally posted by hugh grant

        Hopkins started career late and he didn't need to win titles in 8 divisions and 70 fights but still greater than calzaghe. Hopkins hadn't been koed recently, and hadn't declined too visibly from fight to fight. Whilst pac was obviously more eroded and clearly floyd fought a more gun shy pac. Calzaghe clearly going to get more credit for fighting in hopkins backyard
        hopkins said floyd would be easy fight for him, Pac would be difficult though
        Manny had won 3 in a row between the JMM ko and losing to Floyd. He was fine. Same way you say Barrera was because he won fights after Jones TKO’d him and he retired for a while.

        Yes, after Manny ate the first right hand counter, he realized he needed a different game plan. Floyd deserves credit for that.

        Hopkins is from Philadelphia. Las Vegas, where the fight was, isn’t his backyard.

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          #214
          Originally posted by djtmal

          As much if not more weight than ring mag

          That's why Big Dunn is so frantic
          Lmfao @You thinking Max opinion counts more than a panel at Ring.

          Well you’re a known Manny ball smoker so I am not surprised by this.

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            #215
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            Lmfao @You thinking Max opinion counts more than a panel at Ring.
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            He's a legitimate boxing historian and arguably the voice of boxing right now

            We don't know what this Ring Mag panel consists of. It could be you and a bunch of paid off Floyd boys
            Last edited by djtmal; 01-14-2026, 12:57 PM.

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              #216
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              Manny had won 3 in a row between the JMM ko and losing to Floyd. He was fine.
              Lol Manny was shopworn

              We know how low you will stoop to give Floyd full credit
              Last edited by djtmal; 01-14-2026, 01:00 PM.

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                #217
                Originally posted by djtmal

                He's a legitimate boxing historian and arguably the voice of boxing right now

                We don't know what this Ring Mag panel consists of. It could be you and a bunch of paid off Floyd boys
                Never said he wasn’t. His vote counts once.

                Not multiple times. It isn’t weighted. That is why Floyd finished first in multiple polls. Not that hard to grasp.

                You absolutely know who voted on the panel. Just read the names of who voted.

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                  #218
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                  Never said he wasn’t. His vote counts once.

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                  His list weighs in as heavy as ring mag

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                    #219
                    Originally posted by djtmal

                    His list weighs in as heavy as ring mag
                    Lmfao. One vote as opposed to a panel. Even you don’t believe that.

                    If Max opinion was so respected, check the SI article I posted from Chris Mannix, another expert, questioning Max opinion on this.

                    Either way Mannix is just one opinion too.

                    You get it but are arguing just because you think this will get you more time on Manny’s ballsack.

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                      #220
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      Lmfao. One vote as opposed to a panel.
                      Max Kellerman putting Manny on top of his list shows unbias

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