Carl Froch: "Andre Dirrell Tried To Steal a Decision"

[Bhopreign]

nonsense. The fight speak for itself, no need to elaborfate. Use your skillfull sane mind to pictured out the whole situation.

Umm what? You didnt comment, again why would Dirrell not use his advantages against Froch? Do you even know how to answer that?

[arnold_jasper]

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When did I say I was afraid of getting hit? I try to be smart in there though. If I just tried to hurt people's fists with my face all day, maybe I wouldn't have as good articulation as I have now. No? Here let me teach YOU something: A smart boxer hits without getting hit. I don't care how good your chin is... you can only get hit so many times before it accumulates on you. This will even happen to Froch eventually. We started to see signs of it even in the Dirrell fight where Andre rocked Froch with some counters late in the fight.

Only an idiot goes in there and wants to be hit. That is NOT the objective, especially against a physically stronger opponent..the objective is to hit the other guy. Being hit is inevitable and not to be feared...but to be avoided? Certainly, unless I am accepting a stinging shot to get myself in position to counter in a big way.

Hatton held..Dirrell held.. Acceptable for Hatton..Not for Dirrell.. Its a through and through double standard. Case closed.

Insane, you just said ask froch how it is to get hit, then what does it mean. Meaning, its hurt so you are afraid of getting hit. I told you I am not eradicating totally the art of clinching and running but dirrel did too much derailing the art of sweet science.

[Syf]

Insane, you just said ask froch how it is to get hit, then what does it mean. Meaning, its hurt so you are afraid of getting hit. I told you I am not eradicating totally the art of clinching and running but dirrel did too much derailing the art of sweet science.

No... I'm saying that anyone that steps in the ring and puts themselves at risk against top comp and does the grueling hours of training and conditioning is not a coward, man.

Thats what I'm saying.

I was trying to give you a little perspective into the courage it takes to fight in the first place, but it seems to be beyond your comprehension, so nevermind. You'll forever be stuck in a spectator's mindset. And not even a knowledgeable or particularly respectable spectator.

Anyways I gotta go. Later

[arnold_jasper]

Umm what? You didnt comment, again why would Dirrell not use his advantages against Froch? Do you even know how to answer that?

what advantage he has? run fast than froch? his skill is lacking of aggression at one point. All he know is to run to avoid of getting hit. He don't have the will to win in a convincing fashion. That is what I saw in that fight.

[Bhopreign]

what advantage he has? run fast than froch? his skill is lacking of aggression at one point. All he know is to run to avoid of getting hit. He don't have the will to win in a convincing fashion. That is what I saw in that fight.

Nobody would agree with you.

[arnold_jasper]

[QUOTE=Bhopreign;6429717]Nobody would agree with you.[/QUOTE

Ya, right. Maybe to you.

[Bhopreign]

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Nobody would agree with you.[/QUOTE

Ya, right. Maybe to you.

Again his advantages were reach, hand speed, foot speed, and being a natural boxer. His disadvantages were less power and strength. Try to find someone on this board who would look at those advantages and disadvantages that will tell you Dirrell shouldnt have boxed but rather fought a style similar to Froch's style, you wont find many if any.

[arnold_jasper]

[QUOTE=Bhopreign;6429740]

Again his advantages were reach, hand speed, foot speed, and being a natural boxer. His disadvantages were less power and strength. Try to find someone on this board who would look at those advantages and disadvantages that will tell you Dirrell shouldnt have boxed but rather fought a style similar to Froch's style, you wont find many if any.

I strongly disagree. Don't be deaf and blind. Look and think, in all boxing matches what most part of it that the audience love and like to see evidenced by loud applause and cheers. Is it not when fighters engage and fight. And what part the audience boooeos the fighters, when they don't fight because one of them is keep on running. Figth fans reaction speak for itselt what type of fight they love. This board does not represent the majority of the boxing lovers.

[Bhopreign]

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I strongly disagree. Don't be deaf and blind. Look and think, in all boxing matches what most part of it that the audience love and like to see evidenced by loud applause and cheers. Is it not when fighters engage and fight. And what part the audience boooeos the fighters, when they don't fight because one of them is keep on running. Figth fans reaction speak for itselt what type of fight they love. This board does not represent the majority of the boxing lovers.

Lol where are you from, youre obviously pretty new to the sport of boxing. Why do you keep bringing up audience cheering, thats irrelavant. Im talking about boxing basics. No different than a great running football team who doesnt pass as well, they will stick to their strong suit, which is running the football. Sure fans would enjoy to watch a team air it out over smashmouth running but what do you think the coach is thinking about the ticketholder or guaranteeing a win?

Hopkins trainer said the same thing, which is common sense, he said anybody who thinks Dirrell should have ****** with Froch is dumb, boxing is stick and move, hit and not get hit. If Froch had the talent that Dirrell has then he wouldnt fight the way he does.

[arnold_jasper]

No... I'm saying that anyone that steps in the ring and puts themselves at risk against top comp and does the grueling hours of training and conditioning is not a coward, man.

Thats what I'm saying.

I was trying to give you a little perspective into the courage it takes to fight in the first place, but it seems to be beyond your comprehension, so nevermind. You'll forever be stuck in a spectator's mindset. And not even a knowledgeable or particularly respectable spectator.

Anyways I gotta go. Later

That is what I am saying man. It is you that don't get it. what's the use of such condtitioning and training if you didn't go there and fight. Putting yourself in training, conditioning and putting yourself against top competitors are not by itself bravery. Bravery and courage shows how you applied your training in the ring. The logic of hit and not to get hit is not to say run and run in order not to get hit. Use your skill of movement but not to run. How you can win in boxing when you are running. Wrong application man..