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  • Originally posted by arnold_jasper View Post
    Ali run when he fight but his running style is not really running, he is dancing around his opponent and punching while dancing making his style entertaining. That is footwork, body movement and mind. Dirrel don't know how to do footwork and body movement. All he know is to run to evade his opponent. He is not the so called elusive fighter. A coward in the ring blaming himsel why he is there.

    Honestly Jasper... running but not really running? which one is it? LMFAO

    The skill of boxing is by showing it in the center of the ring infront of your opponent by using handspeed, good footwork, good body balance and movement and presence of mind. This is not to say you can't run and hold , it can be done in dire necessity when you are in the disadvantage situation.

    so just because he didn't do all this with the grace of Ali and made it too ugly for you to watch, this is why you think hes a coward? Most of what you mentioned, Dirrell had in spades compared to Froch... esp presence of mind. (to clinch) lol

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    • Originally posted by arnold_jasper View Post
      oo

      What guts are you talking about that dirrel has? Guts to run and hold.? Guts is coexistent with courage. Guts cannot coexist with cowardice. Dirrel is a coward, hence, he has no guts. Froch is not a good fighter either, but he has guts and courage to do his part in the ring to deserve retention of his crown. Dirrel has not done enough to steal the glory from froch.

      For your knowledge enhancement. Take this as a lesson: boxing is a battle of skill in the ring by using hand speed, footwork, body movement and presence of the mind. Not by running and holding the way dirrel did. Running and holding is part of it but only when you need it and not at the entire round you will. Dirrel's peformance is a mess in boxing.

      So shut your mouth... girl.
      lol @ oo..

      Lol @ you trying to teach me something. I speak from experience in the ring. I've had my nose broken in the ring. It takes more courage than the normal person has, or normal poster in your case, to even continue on after such painful trials, or to even do the training and conditioning involved getting in top form to undergo such trials. In training everyday we push ourselves and our limits..and a weak minded or weak hearted individual would just say "I'm tired" and go home.

      I invite you to go ask Carl freakin Froch to hit you in your face with a punch, then see how willing you are to stand and trade like a colossal idiot of the ages.

      Also about holding... what about Hatton then? The English hero hatton? His style is just loaded with hugs and clinches... Yet its somehow ok for him? Double standard much?

      Pft. please...

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      • Originally posted by arnold_jasper View Post
        oo

        What guts are you talking about that dirrel has? Guts to run and hold.? Guts is coexistent with courage. Guts cannot coexist with cowardice. Dirrel is a coward, hence, he has no guts. Froch is not a good fighter either, but he has guts and courage to do his part in the ring to deserve retention of his crown. Dirrel has not done enough to steal the glory from froch.

        For your knowledge enhancement. Take this as a lesson: boxing is a battle of skill in the ring by using hand speed, footwork, body movement and presence of the mind. Not by running and holding the way dirrel did. Running and holding is part of it but only when you need it and not at the entire round you will. Dirrel's peformance is a mess in boxing.

        So shut your mouth... girl.
        No disrespect, but Im not sure how much boxing youve seen or how much you know about boxing. It wouldnt be to Dirrell's best interest to fight a fight that would benefit Froch. You seem, as many do when discussing boxing, to be speaking from your entertainment point of view.

        Put yourself in Dirrell's shoes for a moment, a guy who is faster, less power, quicker feet, would be a fool to give up those advantages and fight a fight contrary to his talents. With that said, Dirrell stood in front of Froch much of the fight and Froch just looked at him, not punching, not doing anything, blame Froch for your lack of viewing entertainment for some of that fight.

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        • Who get the applause?

          Originally posted by tommy boo boxer View Post
          i haven't called him anything, Im just saying if his plan was too hit and not get hit by any means, i dont see a problem with it... its a strategy, its part of the science... Froch must've felt deep down he knew he lost, the way he is carrying on, that is the sound of a coward and not a very humble champion.

          If boxing was the way you described only... it would've ceased to exist.
          You don't know what you are saying. Are you watching boxing match or dancing of the stars?

          In boxing if you are realy watching, at what scene in the boxing match that get the big applause and attention of the crowd? Isn't it when the fighters make a real fight in the center of the ring by trading blow by blow. 99% of the fans like and love it. Now, how can you say boxing will ceased to exist if it is the way I derscribed it. You are a misguided mind. Need some refresher.

          Take note : Make a match at the same time with Pacquiao and Juan diaz in one arena and Malignaggi with the like of dirrel in another ring, then imagine, use your fair sane sound of mind and thingking, to where do you think people will go to watch? Definitely, you get the answer. Boxing fans wants to get entertained why they are there. They don't like boring fights.

          You are just among the 1% of the boxing fans. It won't hurt boxing if not to have you in the fold. Bye, chose running competition as your sport because you love bred race horce than a bred fighter.

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          • Originally posted by arnold_jasper View Post
            You don't know what you are saying. Are you watching boxing match or dancing of the stars?

            In boxing if you are realy watching, at what scene in the boxing match that get the big applause and attention of the crowd? Isn't it when the fighters make a real fight in the center of the ring by trading blow by blow. 99% of the fans like and love it. Now, how can you say boxing will ceased to exist if it is the way I derscribed it. You are a misguided mind. Need some refresher.

            Take note : Make a match at the same time with Pacquiao and Juan diaz in one arena and Malignaggi with the like of dirrel in another ring, then imagine, use your fair sane sound of mind and thingking, to where do you think people will go to watch? Definitely, you get the answer. Boxing fans wants to get entertained why they are there. They don't like boring fights.

            You are just among the 1% of the boxing fans. It won't hurt boxing if not to have you in the fold. Bye, chose running competition as your sport because you love bred race horce than a bred fighter.
            Its about winning, not pleasing you really. You think Diaz and Pacquiao have YOU in mind when their fighting? I hope you dont think that, they are doing what they feel best will win them the fight.

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            • Then why you enter boxing.

              Originally posted by Syf View Post
              lol @ oo..

              Lol @ you trying to teach me something. I speak from experience in the ring. I've had my nose broken in the ring. It takes more courage than the normal person has, or normal poster in your case, to even continue on after such painful trials, or to even do the training and conditioning involved getting in top form to undergo such trials. In training everyday we push ourselves and our limits..and a weak minded or weak hearted individual would just say "I'm tired" and go home.

              I invite you to go ask Carl freakin Froch to hit you in your face with a punch, then see how willing you are to stand and trade like a colossal idiot of the ages.

              Also about holding... what about Hatton then? The English hero hatton? His style is just loaded with hugs and clinches... Yet its somehow ok for him?
              Double standard much? Pft. please...
              Then why you entered boxing if you are afraid of getting hit. The training that you are saying, what it is for if you don't want to fight in the ring. So you are training for just grand standing in the ring? A waste of time and effort. You shoud enrolled yourself in dancing competition which is suit for you instead of boxing. You might become the champion without a broken nose.

              as for Hatton, he clinch yes but he fight, he clinched his opponent that tried to run, but he himself never run. His style might not good but much better than the style of dirrel which I believe the boxing fans will like more than dirrel. Dirrel style is a derail in boxing.
              Last edited by arnold_jasper; 10-22-2009, 05:03 AM.

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              • Originally posted by arnold_jasper View Post
                Then why you entered boxing if you are afraid of getting hit. You shoud enrolled yourself in dancing competition which is suit for you instead of boxing. You might become the champion without a broken nose.

                Hatton clinch but he fight, he clinched but never run. His style might not good but much better than the style of dirrel which I believe the boxing fans will like more than dirrel. Dirrel is a derail in boxing.
                ......

                When did I say I was afraid of getting hit? I try to be smart in there though. If I just tried to hurt people's fists with my face all day, maybe I wouldn't have as good articulation as I have now. No? Here let me teach YOU something: A smart boxer hits without getting hit. I don't care how good your chin is... you can only get hit so many times before it accumulates on you. This will even happen to Froch eventually. We started to see signs of it even in the Dirrell fight where Andre rocked Froch with some counters late in the fight.

                Only an idiot goes in there and wants to be hit. That is NOT the objective, especially against a physically stronger opponent..the objective is to hit the other guy. Being hit is inevitable and not to be feared...but to be avoided? Certainly, unless I am accepting a stinging shot to get myself in position to counter in a big way.

                Hatton held..Dirrell held.. Acceptable for Hatton..Not for Dirrell.. Its a through and through double standard. Case closed.
                Last edited by Syf; 10-22-2009, 05:11 AM.

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                • Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
                  Its about winning, not pleasing you really. You think Diaz and Pacquiao have YOU in mind when their fighting? I hope you dont think that, they are doing what they feel best will win them the fight.
                  Take note, boxing will not exist without a follower like us. Yes, its about winning but just winning is a selfish attitude. Its nothing. A fighter should make a name for himself in the boxing world not in his backyard.

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                  • Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
                    No disrespect, but Im not sure how much boxing youve seen or how much you know about boxing. It wouldnt be to Dirrell's best interest to fight a fight that would benefit Froch. You seem, as many do when discussing boxing, to be speaking from your entertainment point of view.

                    Put yourself in Dirrell's shoes for a moment, a guy who is faster, less power, quicker feet, would be a fool to give up those advantages and fight a fight contrary to his talents. With that said, Dirrell stood in front of Froch much of the fight and Froch just looked at him, not punching, not doing anything, blame Froch for your lack of viewing entertainment for some of that fight.
                    nonsense. The fight speak for itself, no need to elaborfate. Use your skillfull sane mind to pictured out the whole situation.

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                    • Originally posted by arnold_jasper View Post
                      Take note, boxing will not exist without a follower like us. Yes, its about winning but just winning is a selfish attitude. Its nothing. A fighter should make a name for himself in the boxing world not in his backyard.
                      Im willing to bet youve never laced them up before.

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