Canelo is not an all time great fighter
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I addressed everything; you asked for 70 fighters, and I gave you 74. You're upset because three of them don't meet your criteria. Who is the buffoon?Originally posted by IronDanHamza
No surprises like a typical buffoon you address nothing that you said that you were challenged on
YOU are the one who included loss's on a resume RETARD.
You said this;
"Yes for real, he fought Monzon, multiple times, Eddie Muhammed, Emile griffith, multiple times and Rodrigo Valdes. Any of those 4 fighters would have done a number on Saul"
Did Bennie Briscoe beat any of those fighters in bold?Comment
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Except you literally didn't do that and did the opposite by ignoring it multiple times.
You said this;
"Yes for real, he fought Monzon, multiple times, Eddie Muhammed, Emile griffith, multiple times and Rodrigo Valdes. Any of those 4 fighters would have done a number on Saul"
Did Bennie Briscoe beat any of those fighters in bold?
It's a yes or no question.
There's way more than three. Those three of Tszyu, Briscoe and Nunn were just are just the most comical.
You've included Dwight Muahmmad Qawi which is equally as comical. Nigel Benn, Matthew Saad Muhammad, Klitshcko brothers, Rocky Graziano, Winky Wright, Bob Foster, Jeff Fenech, Flash Elorde, and a list of others that are COMICAL inclusions. Beyond laughable. None of those fighters listed resume or career are even close to Canelo's.
You're just throwing names in there in the hope that people don't know their careers but unfortnuately for you buddy, I do. With every last one of them. You clearly do not.
I mean, Bennie Briscoe, being ranked higher on an ATG list than Canelo Alvarez?
Legit one of the most retarded positions I have ever heard in my life.
And If we're including loss's like you have for your inclusions than Canelo is WAY higher.Comment
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You're a clown. All those fighters you're mentioning are way better fighters and fear none, they faced and won some of the best of their era. Mention one elite fighter canelo has beating?
Except you literally didn't do that and did the opposite by ignoring it multiple times.
You said this;
"Yes for real, he fought Monzon, multiple times, Eddie Muhammed, Emile griffith, multiple times and Rodrigo Valdes. Any of those 4 fighters would have done a number on Saul"
Did Bennie Briscoe beat any of those fighters in bold?
It's a yes or no question.
There's way more than three. Those three of Tszyu, Briscoe and Nunn were just are just the most comical.
You've included Dwight Muahmmad Qawi which is equally as comical. Nigel Benn, Matthew Saad Muhammad, Klitshcko brothers, Rocky Graziano, Winky Wright, Bob Foster, Jeff Fenech, Flash Elorde, and a list of others that are COMICAL inclusions. Beyond laughable. None of those fighters listed resume or career are even close to Canelo's.
You're just throwing names in there in the hope that people don't know their careers but unfortnuately for you buddy, I do. With every last one of them. You clearly do not.
I mean, Bennie Briscoe, being ranked higher on an ATG list than Canelo Alvarez?
Legit one of the most retarded positions I have ever heard in my life.
And If we're including loss's like you have for your inclusions than Canelo is WAY higher.
Foster beat **** Tiger
Nigel Benn beat Mclellan
Qawi beat Mathew Saad
Saad beat marvin Johnson
Graziano lost and won vs Tony Zale
winky wright won ve Shane Mosley and Trinidad, in their prime.
elorde? I can give you that one.
Fenech won and lost against Nelson
And please, stop with canelo's resume, it is laughable. mention one elite fighter he beat, don't go around the bush.
Last edited by garfios; 01-01-2026, 08:11 PM.Comment
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Is there a reason you're not answering a very simple yes or no question? You can read? You know what the word "yes" and "no mean?
You said this;
"Yes for real, he fought Monzon, multiple times, Eddie Muhammed, Emile griffith, multiple times and Rodrigo Valdes. Any of those 4 fighters would have done a number on Saul"
Did Bennie Briscoe beat any of those fighters in bold?
It's a yes or no question.
How about this, go through all their resumes and break down how they're better than Canelo's
You've already miserably failed with Bennie Briscoe and Micheal Nunn.
Now try it with;
Nigel Benn
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Klitshcko brothers
Rocky Graziano
Winky Wright
Bob Foster
Jeff Fenech
Flash Elorde
This should be hilarious
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Just saw this hilarious edit.
You're a clown. All those fighters you're mentioning are way better fighters and fear none, they faced and won some of the best of their era. Mention one elite fighter canelo has beating?
Foster beat **** Tiger
Nigel Benn beat Mclellan
Qawi beat Mathew Saad
Saad beat marvin Johnson
Graziano lost and won vs Tony Zale
winky wright won ve Shane Mosley and Trinidad, in their prime.
elorde? I can give you that one.
Fenech won and lost against Nelson
And please, stop with canelo's resume, it is laughable. mention one elite fighter he beat, don't go around the bush.
You're listing 1/2 wins per person, show their resume, dumbass. And then we can compare it to Canelo's. Canelo's resume is better than every single fighter that's listed there. None of them are even close.
Firstly, you're using your critique of Canelo fighting fighters not in their prime, from your list the fighters who weren't prime;
Tito Trinidad (That you've hilarious tried to claim here was in his prime. What, in in 2005? Are you brain dead?)
Dick Tiger
Azumah Nelson
Tony Zale
You're listing these wins are "elite wins" when Canelo has that level of win numerous times on his resume.
Marvin Johnson? Tony Zale? Matthew Saad Muhammad? You're actually trying to claim Canelo doesn't have wins of this caliber?Last edited by IronDanHamza; 01-01-2026, 09:10 PM.Comment
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Don't avoid the question. Find me, in that out this world resume of Saul, one elite boxer in his prime that he has beat. Just one and don't get back to me with anothe $h1t, you ask for 70 fighters and I answered. Find just one on ginger resume that we can say, wow, an elite boxer in his prime and canelo kick the crap our of him. Not a guy three division below with alcohol problems and inactive, well he ain't elite. Found one.
Just saw this hilarious edit.
You're listing 1/2 wins per person, show their resume, dumbass. And then we can compare it to Canelo's. Canelo's resume is better than every single fighter that's listed there. None of them are even close.
Firstly, you're using your critique of Canelo fighting fighters not in their prime, from your list the fighters who weren't prime;
Tito Trinidad (That you've hilarious tried to claim here was in his prime. What, in in 2005? Are you brain dead?)
Dick Tiger
Azumah Nelson
Tony Zale
You're listing these wins are "elite wins" when Canelo has that level of win numerous times on his resume.
Marvin Johnson? Tony Zale? Matthew Saad Muhammad? You're actually trying to claim Canelo doesn't have wins of this caliber?👍 1Comment
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Canelo was meant to fight Benavidez in 2022 but ducked and ran up to 175lbs instead to make the fight with Bivol, obviously viewing him as a weak champion who he thought he'd dominate... But we saw how that one played out?
Canelo has only beaten b grade fighters, aged fighters and those at a weight disadvantage to himself. In reality he lost to Golovkin twice and although it shows a a win for him on paper, most fans hold the view that it was controversial
Reynoso runs a gym where numerous of his fighters have tested dirty for PEDs. Canelo has been with Reynoso for his whole career - Canelo has tested positive for PEDs
Canelo invented a pathetic 155lbs catchweight division to hide from Golovkin in an unprecedented display of cowardice.
Canelo has heavy slow feet, terrible stamina (often fading down the stretch) and shown he has no plan B in fights.
Canelo is not an all time great...👍 2Comment
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Is this intention irony or are you not realising how painfully hypocritical this statment is?
I'll ask again since you've now overtly avoided answering the question 3 times;
You said this;
"Yes for real, he fought Monzon, multiple times, Eddie Muhammed, Emile griffith, multiple times and Rodrigo Valdes. Any of those 4 fighters would have done a number on Saul"
Did Bennie Briscoe beat any of those fighters in bold?
It's a yes or no question.
I have already cited Canelo resume multiple times. I'll do it again to appease you;Find me, in that out this world resume of Saul, one elite boxer in his prime that he has beat. Just one and don't get back to me with anothe $h1t, you ask for 70 fighters and I answered. Find just one on ginger resume that we can say, wow, an elite boxer in his prime and canelo kick the crap our of him. Not a guy three division below with alcohol problems and inactive, well he ain't elite. Found one.
Gennady Golovkin
Miguel Cotto
Austin Trout
Erislany Lara
Danny Jacobs
Sergey Kovalev
Liam Smith
James Kirkland
Alfredo Angulo
Callum Smith
Billy Joe Saunders
Caleb Plant
Now go ahead and do the same for;
Bennie Briscoe
Kosta Tszyu
Micheal Nunn
Nigel Benn
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Klitshcko brothers
Rocky Graziano
Winky Wright
Bob Foster
Jeff Fenech
Flash Elorde
List their full resumes and let's see which one's are more better and hold more accomplishments than Canelo's.Comment
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You did it, IronDanHamza will go after you with zero regard for common sense and absolutely no knowledge what a real resume looks.Canelo was meant to fight Benavidez in 2022 but ducked and ran up to 175lbs instead to make the fight with Bivol, obviously viewing him as a weak champion who he thought he'd dominate... But we saw how that one played out?
Canelo has only beaten b grade fighters, aged fighters and those at a weight disadvantage to himself. In reality he lost to Golovkin twice and although it shows a a win for him on paper, most fans hold the view that it was controversial
Reynoso runs a gym where numerous of his fighters have tested dirty for PEDs. Canelo has been with Reynoso for his whole career - Canelo has tested positive for PEDs
Canelo invented a pathetic 155lbs catchweight division to hide from Golovkin in an unprecedented display of cowardice.
Canelo has heavy slow feet, terrible stamina (often fading down the stretch) and shown he has no plan B in fights.
Canelo is not an all time great...Comment
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