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  • garfios
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    #341
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

    No, I included those fights he lost to AFTER you included loss's on the fighters you were defending's resumes to combat your moronic argument.

    You decided to include Monzon, Griffith and Valdez on Briscoe's resume and James Toney on Micheal Nunn's resume.

    So in response I said if you're including loss's then you have to include Mayweather, Bivol, Crawford and GGG 1 on Canelo's resume.

    Either way it's still Canelo BY A COUNTRY MILE.
    Don't made me laugh, canelo's resume is bs.

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      #342
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

      No surprises like a typical buffoon you address nothing that you said that you were challenged on

      YOU are the one who included loss's on a resume RETARD.

      You said this;

      "Yes for real, he fought Monzon, multiple times, Eddie Muhammed, Emile griffith, multiple times and Rodrigo Valdes. Any of those 4 fighters would have done a number on Saul"

      Did Bennie Briscoe beat any of those fighters in bold?
      I addressed everything; you asked for 70 fighters, and I gave you 74. You're upset because three of them don't meet your criteria. Who is the buffoon?

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        #343
        Originally posted by garfios

        I addressed everything;
        Except you literally didn't do that and did the opposite by ignoring it multiple times.

        You said this;

        "Yes for real, he fought Monzon, multiple times, Eddie Muhammed, Emile griffith, multiple times and Rodrigo Valdes. Any of those 4 fighters would have done a number on Saul"

        Did Bennie Briscoe beat any of those fighters in bold?

        It's a yes or no question.




        Originally posted by garfios
        you asked for 70 fighters, and I gave you 74. You're upset because three of them don't meet your criteria. Who is the buffoon?
        There's way more than three. Those three of Tszyu, Briscoe and Nunn were just are just the most comical.

        You've included Dwight Muahmmad Qawi which is equally as comical. Nigel Benn, Matthew Saad Muhammad, Klitshcko brothers, Rocky Graziano, Winky Wright, Bob Foster, Jeff Fenech, Flash Elorde, and a list of others that are COMICAL inclusions. Beyond laughable. None of those fighters listed resume or career are even close to Canelo's.

        You're just throwing names in there in the hope that people don't know their careers but unfortnuately for you buddy, I do. With every last one of them. You clearly do not.

        I mean, Bennie Briscoe, being ranked higher on an ATG list than Canelo Alvarez? Legit one of the most retarded positions I have ever heard in my life.

        And If we're including loss's like you have for your inclusions than Canelo is WAY higher.

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        • garfios
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          #344
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza

          Except you literally didn't do that and did the opposite by ignoring it multiple times.

          You said this;

          "Yes for real, he fought Monzon, multiple times, Eddie Muhammed, Emile griffith, multiple times and Rodrigo Valdes. Any of those 4 fighters would have done a number on Saul"

          Did Bennie Briscoe beat any of those fighters in bold?

          It's a yes or no question.






          There's way more than three. Those three of Tszyu, Briscoe and Nunn were just are just the most comical.

          You've included Dwight Muahmmad Qawi which is equally as comical. Nigel Benn, Matthew Saad Muhammad, Klitshcko brothers, Rocky Graziano, Winky Wright, Bob Foster, Jeff Fenech, Flash Elorde, and a list of others that are COMICAL inclusions. Beyond laughable. None of those fighters listed resume or career are even close to Canelo's.

          You're just throwing names in there in the hope that people don't know their careers but unfortnuately for you buddy, I do. With every last one of them. You clearly do not.

          I mean, Bennie Briscoe, being ranked higher on an ATG list than Canelo Alvarez? Legit one of the most retarded positions I have ever heard in my life.

          And If we're including loss's like you have for your inclusions than Canelo is WAY higher.
          You're a clown. All those fighters you're mentioning are way better fighters and fear none, they faced and won some of the best of their era. Mention one elite fighter canelo has beating?
          Foster beat **** Tiger
          Nigel Benn beat Mclellan
          Qawi beat Mathew Saad
          Saad beat marvin Johnson
          Graziano lost and won vs Tony Zale
          winky wright won ve Shane Mosley and Trinidad, in their prime.
          elorde? I can give you that one.
          Fenech won and lost against Nelson
          And please, stop with canelo's resume, it is laughable. mention one elite fighter he beat, don't go around the bush.


          Last edited by garfios; 01-01-2026, 08:11 PM.

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            #345
            Originally posted by garfios

            You're a clown.
            Is there a reason you're not answering a very simple yes or no question? You can read? You know what the word "yes" and "no mean?

            You said this;

            "Yes for real, he fought Monzon, multiple times, Eddie Muhammed, Emile griffith, multiple times and Rodrigo Valdes. Any of those 4 fighters would have done a number on Saul"

            Did Bennie Briscoe beat any of those fighters in bold?

            It's a yes or no question.



            Originally posted by garfios
            All those fighters you're mentioning are way better fighters and fear none, they faced and won some of the best of their era. Mention one elite fighter canelo has beating?
            How about this, go through all their resumes and break down how they're better than Canelo's

            You've already miserably failed with Bennie Briscoe and Micheal Nunn.

            Now try it with;

            Nigel Benn
            Matthew Saad Muhammad
            Klitshcko brothers
            Rocky Graziano
            Winky Wright
            Bob Foster
            Jeff Fenech
            Flash Elorde

            This should be hilarious


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              #346
              Originally posted by garfios

              You're a clown. All those fighters you're mentioning are way better fighters and fear none, they faced and won some of the best of their era. Mention one elite fighter canelo has beating?
              Foster beat **** Tiger
              Nigel Benn beat Mclellan
              Qawi beat Mathew Saad
              Saad beat marvin Johnson
              Graziano lost and won vs Tony Zale
              winky wright won ve Shane Mosley and Trinidad, in their prime.
              elorde? I can give you that one.
              Fenech won and lost against Nelson
              And please, stop with canelo's resume, it is laughable. mention one elite fighter he beat, don't go around the bush.

              Just saw this hilarious edit.

              You're listing 1/2 wins per person, show their resume, dumbass. And then we can compare it to Canelo's. Canelo's resume is better than every single fighter that's listed there. None of them are even close.

              Firstly, you're using your critique of Canelo fighting fighters not in their prime, from your list the fighters who weren't prime;

              Tito Trinidad (That you've hilarious tried to claim here was in his prime. What, in in 2005? Are you brain dead?)
              Dick Tiger
              Azumah Nelson
              Tony Zale

              You're listing these wins are "elite wins" when Canelo has that level of win numerous times on his resume.

              Marvin Johnson? Tony Zale? Matthew Saad Muhammad? You're actually trying to claim Canelo doesn't have wins of this caliber?
              Last edited by IronDanHamza; 01-01-2026, 09:10 PM.

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              • garfios
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                #347
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                Just saw this hilarious edit.

                You're listing 1/2 wins per person, show their resume, dumbass. And then we can compare it to Canelo's. Canelo's resume is better than every single fighter that's listed there. None of them are even close.

                Firstly, you're using your critique of Canelo fighting fighters not in their prime, from your list the fighters who weren't prime;

                Tito Trinidad (That you've hilarious tried to claim here was in his prime. What, in in 2005? Are you brain dead?)
                Dick Tiger
                Azumah Nelson
                Tony Zale

                You're listing these wins are "elite wins" when Canelo has that level of win numerous times on his resume.

                Marvin Johnson? Tony Zale? Matthew Saad Muhammad? You're actually trying to claim Canelo doesn't have wins of this caliber?
                Don't avoid the question. Find me, in that out this world resume of Saul, one elite boxer in his prime that he has beat. Just one and don't get back to me with anothe $h1t, you ask for 70 fighters and I answered. Find just one on ginger resume that we can say, wow, an elite boxer in his prime and canelo kick the crap our of him. Not a guy three division below with alcohol problems and inactive, well he ain't elite. Found one.

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                • Elastic Recoilz
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                  #348
                  Canelo was meant to fight Benavidez in 2022 but ducked and ran up to 175lbs instead to make the fight with Bivol, obviously viewing him as a weak champion who he thought he'd dominate... But we saw how that one played out?

                  Canelo has only beaten b grade fighters, aged fighters and those at a weight disadvantage to himself. In reality he lost to Golovkin twice and although it shows a a win for him on paper, most fans hold the view that it was controversial

                  Reynoso runs a gym where numerous of his fighters have tested dirty for PEDs. Canelo has been with Reynoso for his whole career - Canelo has tested positive for PEDs

                  Canelo invented a pathetic 155lbs catchweight division to hide from Golovkin in an unprecedented display of cowardice.

                  Canelo has heavy slow feet, terrible stamina (often fading down the stretch) and shown he has no plan B in fights.

                  Canelo is not an all time great...

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                    #349
                    Originally posted by garfios

                    Don't avoid the question.
                    Is this intention irony or are you not realising how painfully hypocritical this statment is?

                    I'll ask again since you've now overtly avoided answering the question 3 times;

                    You said this;

                    "Yes for real, he fought Monzon, multiple times, Eddie Muhammed, Emile griffith, multiple times and Rodrigo Valdes. Any of those 4 fighters would have done a number on Saul"

                    Did Bennie Briscoe beat any of those fighters in bold?

                    It's a yes or no question.






                    Originally posted by garfios
                    Find me, in that out this world resume of Saul, one elite boxer in his prime that he has beat. Just one and don't get back to me with anothe $h1t, you ask for 70 fighters and I answered. Find just one on ginger resume that we can say, wow, an elite boxer in his prime and canelo kick the crap our of him. Not a guy three division below with alcohol problems and inactive, well he ain't elite. Found one.
                    I have already cited Canelo resume multiple times. I'll do it again to appease you;


                    Gennady Golovkin
                    Miguel Cotto
                    Austin Trout
                    Erislany Lara
                    Danny Jacobs
                    Sergey Kovalev
                    Liam Smith
                    James Kirkland
                    Alfredo Angulo​
                    Callum Smith
                    Billy Joe Saunders
                    Caleb Plant

                    Now go ahead and do the same for;

                    Bennie Briscoe
                    Kosta Tszyu
                    Micheal Nunn
                    Nigel Benn
                    Matthew Saad Muhammad
                    Klitshcko brothers
                    Rocky Graziano
                    Winky Wright
                    Bob Foster
                    Jeff Fenech
                    Flash Elorde

                    List their full resumes and let's see which one's are more better and hold more accomplishments than Canelo's.

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                    • garfios
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                      #350
                      Originally posted by Elastic Recoilz
                      Canelo was meant to fight Benavidez in 2022 but ducked and ran up to 175lbs instead to make the fight with Bivol, obviously viewing him as a weak champion who he thought he'd dominate... But we saw how that one played out?

                      Canelo has only beaten b grade fighters, aged fighters and those at a weight disadvantage to himself. In reality he lost to Golovkin twice and although it shows a a win for him on paper, most fans hold the view that it was controversial

                      Reynoso runs a gym where numerous of his fighters have tested dirty for PEDs. Canelo has been with Reynoso for his whole career - Canelo has tested positive for PEDs

                      Canelo invented a pathetic 155lbs catchweight division to hide from Golovkin in an unprecedented display of cowardice.

                      Canelo has heavy slow feet, terrible stamina (often fading down the stretch) and shown he has no plan B in fights.

                      Canelo is not an all time great...
                      You did it, IronDanHamza will go after you with zero regard for common sense and absolutely no knowledge what a real resume looks.

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