Canelo is not an all time great fighter

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  • djtmal
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    #181
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

    Hearns got beaten up and stopped .
    Stop contaminating the thread with your obvious hate agenda because Canelo isn't an all time great in many people's opinions

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #182
      Originally posted by djtmal

      I was being generous it's more like top 100

      Like 107
      Oh look at the backtrack

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        #183
        Originally posted by djtmal

        Stop contaminating the thread with your obvious hate agenda because Canelo isn't an all time great in many people's opinions
        Just a fact.

        You're the one who said anyone who gets stopped is not in their prime.

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          #184
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza

          Just a .
          Yeah start a thread about it. See how far you get

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            #185
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza

            Does that magically mean he wasn't stopped? You said anyone who's been stopped isn't in their prime.

            Now, as per usual, you're moving the goalposts.

            Hearns was raked through the coals and stopped by the time Hagler fought him, just like every HOF'er he fought.

            Zero HOF'ers in their prime, let alone ATG's.
            Duran was in his prime. And you boy Canelo couldn't hold his socks.

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              #186
              Originally posted by djtmal

              I am the one who said Canelo isn't an all time great
              Me too

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                #187
                Originally posted by garfios
                Duran was in his prime. And you boy Canelo couldn't hold his socks.
                Roberto Duran in his prime in 1983 in his 8th weight class beyond his starting weight class and 3-3 in his last 6 fights

                Good one.

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                  Roberto Duran in his prime in 1983 in his 8th weight class beyond his starting weight class and 3-3 in his last 6 fights

                  Good one.
                  Still, he showed that he could fight with the best, he went 15 rounds with Hagler, Knocked out Davey Moore, and won the 160 crown against Barkley, all after losing to Hearns. I know you are a fan of canelo, there's nothing g wrong with that, you can even be blind and deaf, but when you're talking about greats, he ain't in that list. First, doesn't have the resume, second, he's the only beltholder to openly avoid certain fighters to the point to excuse himself by blaming the fighter in question. No, he is not an all time great because he doesn't belong with them, he however is one of the few boxers that has made 100's of millions of $$$ and with that his family, and descendants can live like King's and Queens, but unlike the corrupt organizations money is not buying an all time grea status.

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                    #189
                    Originally posted by garfios

                    Still, he showed that he could fight with the best, he went 15 rounds with Hagler, Knocked out Davey Moore, and won the 160 crown against Barkley, all after losing to Hearns.
                    And? "Hanging with the best" doesn't equate to someone's prime.

                    He wasn't in his prime in 1983 or anywhere even close.





                    Originally posted by garfios
                    I know you are a fan of canelo, there's nothing g wrong with that, you can even be blind and deaf, but when you're talking about greats, he ain't in that list. First, doesn't have the resume, second, he's the only beltholder to openly avoid certain fighters to the point to excuse himself by blaming the fighter in question. No, he is not an all time great because he doesn't belong with them, he however is one of the few boxers that has made 100's of millions of $$$ and with that his family, and descendants can live like King's and Queens, but unlike the corrupt organizations money is not buying an all time grea status.
                    Not an overly big fan of Canelo, firstly.

                    Secondly, anyone who gained P4P #1 status for 4 years in a row and Top 10 P4P status for 12 years and counting is an ATG, especially when that fighter is a 4 weight world champion, 2 Lineal and one undisputed. If not, name me any other fighter in history who has achievements even close to that that's not an ATG.

                    You asked who Canelo beat to attain the P4P #1 ranking, I gave you the list and you just ignored it

                    Canelo's an ATG, he'll be remembered as not only an ATG but one of the elite fighters of his era, that's just a fact.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                      Roberto Duran in his prime in 1983 in his 8th weight class beyond his starting weight class and 3-3 in his last 6 fights

                      Good one.
                      Duran was 32yo, he has beating up Cuevas and Moore, and went 15 competitive round with Hagler, he was not washed up like you're trying to put it, and years later he won against a bigger guy that has knocked out Hearns. I have to give credit to Hearns.

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