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  • The Big Dunn
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    #211
    Originally posted by hugh grant

    So beating a former light flyweight is better than pac pac being oldest WW champ ever in 8th weight class in 70th fight?
    So bradley beating pac, is more history making and better than anything pac can ever do? Bradley will always have that win over pac? Yes, so what is your point?
    You do this incredibly g@y thing where you try and make Manny lesser of a boxer only when it comes to Floyd beating him.

    Every other fight you treat him as the greatest ever.

    You are such a nut gobbling stan for behaving like this. It’s bad enough you made the post about everyone Floyd had to beat to be an ATG then deleted once he did. But this is ridiculous.

    Yes, Floyd beating Manny is better than any win in Manny’s resume. Period.

    Bradley didn’t beat Manny, Manny was robbed is what you’ve posted many times but are now switching because you and equally f@ggoty daggum are upset about Floyd being ranked ahead of Manny here.

    Bradley was a free agent that chose TR over PBC Manny was easier to beat than Floyd and Bob had the fake trilogy set up.

    Floyd is better than Manny and beat him when they fought. Just get over it. It’s been over 10 years now.

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #212
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      Stop the BS defending Manny for ducking daggum.

      Floyd was the a side. That’s why it only goes one way.

      Example, you have never said ODH would’ve had his biggest payday had he accepted any of Floyd’s challenges even though he did when he fought Floyd.

      Stop exaggerating Manny as a money machine. He wasn’t selling more at live gates or on ppv. He had never made that much at the time of the offer.

      Had things been reversed, you’d be saying Floyd should’ve taken the payday to prove he wanted the fight and the title.

      Pac agreed after Floyd took the offer off the table because Manny kept refusing testing. What you wanted was Floyd to treat Manny as an equal when they weren’t equals.

      Who are you to tell anyone how to negotiate a deal?

      Bottom line, which you can’t change no matter how hard you try, is Manny took less to fight JMM. He got ktfo. That isn’t on Floyd.

      That is karma for Manny ducking.

      You thinking Manny should’ve won shows that you have 0 credibility.
      - - Arum had Manny on PPVs years before l'l floydy and he cr ack daddy.

      l'l floydy, he cra ck daddy and Oscar paid undisclosed million$ to Manny for defamation and had to take out a full public Newspaper article apologizing to Manny for lying about him.

      Manny took the Oscar fight on short notice after l'l floydy and he crack daddy ducked the rematch for Oscar 2.

      In U dumbo case, evolution is in a backwards tumble.

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      • hugh grant
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        #213
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn

        You do this incredibly g@y thing where you try and make Manny lesser of a boxer only when it comes to Floyd beating him.

        Every other fight you treat him as the greatest ever.

        You are such a nut gobbling stan for behaving like this. It’s bad enough you made the post about everyone Floyd had to beat to be an ATG then deleted once he did. But this is ridiculous.

        Yes, Floyd beating Manny is better than any win in Manny’s resume. Period.

        Bradley didn’t beat Manny, Manny was robbed is what you’ve posted many times but are now switching because you and equally f@ggoty daggum are upset about Floyd being ranked ahead of Manny here.

        Bradley was a free agent that chose TR over PBC Manny was easier to beat than Floyd and Bob had the fake trilogy set up.

        Floyd is better than Manny and beat him when they fought. Just get over it. It’s been over 10 years now.

        So jmm beating pac is better than.anything pac did too? It's surprising jm m don't think he's greater than pac too?
        Floyd's win over pac is nothing, it's a win Floyd's ridiculed for Tip tapping a former light flyweight in his 70th fight to a controversial win, the standards you put on floyd are low.
        Pac s win over thurman, cotton and d lh, prime barrera and x3 wins over prime jmm is greater than Floyd's win over pac
        Last edited by hugh grant; 12-29-2025, 11:35 AM.

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          #214
          Originally posted by hugh grant


          So jmm beating pac is better than.anything pac did too? It's surprising jm m don't think he's greater than pac too?
          Floyd's win over pac is nothing, it's a win Floyd's ridiculed for Tip tapping a former light flyweight in his 70th fight to a controversial win, the standards you put on floyd are low.
          Pac s win over thurman, cotton and d lh, prime barrera and x3 wins over prime jmm is greater than Floyd's win over pac
          Yes. IMO JMM ko win over Manny is a better win than anything on Manny’s resume. Unlike you, I am not going to minimize Manny just for argument purposes when it suits my agenda.

          I get it. You can’t ever erase Floyd beating him so as a nut gurgling Manny stan, you are trying to minimize it. Extremely weak and pathetic but that is who and what you are.

          How was Barrera prime? He had lost twice, including a tko to Junior Jones and had retired. Oh yeah, a ko loss only makes Manny not prime when discussing Floyd beating him.

          You’re a joke.

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #215
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules

            - - Arum had Manny on PPVs years before l'l floydy and he cr ack daddy.

            l'l floydy, he cra ck daddy and Oscar paid undisclosed million$ to Manny for defamation and had to take out a full public Newspaper article apologizing to Manny for lying about him.

            Manny took the Oscar fight on short notice after l'l floydy and he crack daddy ducked the rematch for Oscar 2.

            In U dumbo case, evolution is in a backwards tumble.
            I don’t understand this babble.

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #216
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules

              - - Arum had Manny on PPVs years before l'l floydy and he cr ack daddy.

              l'l floydy, he cra ck daddy and Oscar paid undisclosed million$ to Manny for defamation and had to take out a full public Newspaper article apologizing to Manny for lying about him.

              Manny took the Oscar fight on short notice after l'l floydy and he crack daddy ducked the rematch for Oscar 2.

              In U dumbo case, evolution is in a backwards tumble.
              I didn't know a fight being announced 14 weeks before the date of the fight was considered "short notice"

              Retard

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              • hugh grant
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                #217
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                Yes. IMO JMM ko win over Manny is a better win than anything on Manny’s resume. Unlike you, I am not going to minimize Manny just for argument purposes when it suits my agenda.

                I get it. You can’t ever erase Floyd beating him so as a nut gurgling Manny stan, you are trying to minimize it. Extremely weak and pathetic but that is who and what you are.

                How was Barrera prime? He had lost twice, including a tko to Junior Jones and had retired. Oh yeah, a ko loss only makes Manny not prime when discussing Floyd beating him.

                You’re a joke.
                Oh I'm understanding you. You are giving your flowers to Pac and kow towing to pacs achievements and resume and it's unlikely to be able to get a greater win than beating pac as pac s resume is the best. Just like Randolph turpin beating SRR is better than anything anything on srr resume and frasier beating Ali is better than anything in Alis resume.
                With the understanding that it don't make them greater, you are just giving srr, Ali and Pac their flowers of being the greatest, so if course a win over them is going to be mind blowingly hard to top. Gotcha, we are speaking same language now

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                  #218
                  Originally posted by hugh grant

                  Oh I'm understanding you. You are giving your flowers to Pac and kow towing to pacs achievements and resume and it's unlikely to be able to get a greater win than beating pac as pac s resume is the best. Just like Randolph turpin beating SRR is better than anything anything on srr resume and frasier beating Ali is better than anything in Alis resume.
                  With the understanding that it don't make them greater, you are just giving srr, Ali and Pac their flowers of being the greatest, so if course a win over them is going to be mind blowingly hard to top. Gotcha, we are speaking same language now
                  Lmfao. I have repeatedly stated pac is the 2nd best boxer in Floyd’s generation. I’m not just all the sudden doing it now you lying piece of garbage.

                  I can’t speak to to Turpin but Frazier winning over Ali is probably not better than Ali over Foreman.

                  You keep trying this logic and it’s never going to work. SRR and Ali are far superior to Turpin and Frazier despite losing to them.

                  Floyd is far superior to Manny and the fight they had showed it. Manny could’ve always fought him earlier but he decided to duck him.

                  Karma for repeatedly ducking him was getting ktfo by JMM imo.

                  What you conveniently leave out is SRR and Ali also beat Turpin and Frazier after they lost to them. Manny didn’t do that.

                  You’re trying too hard. Floyd, like Ali and SRR, are the better boxers when compared to Manny, Frazier and Turpin.

                  It’s really just that simple.
                  Last edited by The Big Dunn; 12-29-2025, 01:39 PM.

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #219
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                    Lmfao. I have repeatedly stated pac is the 2nd best boxer in Floyd’s generation. I’m not just all the sudden doing it now you lying piece of garbage.

                    I can’t speak to to Turpin but Frazier winning over Ali is probably not better than Ali over Foreman.

                    You keep trying this logic and it’s never going to work. SRR and Ali are far superior to Turpin and Frazier despite losing to them.

                    Floyd is far superior to Manny and the fight they had showed it. Manny could’ve always fought him earlier but he decided to duck him.

                    Karma for repeatedly ducking him was getting ktfo by JMM imo.

                    What you conveniently leave out is SRR and Ali also beat Turpin and Frazier after they lost to them. Manny didn’t do that.

                    You’re trying too hard. Floyd, like Ali and SRR, are the better boxers when compared to Manny, Frazier and Turpin.

                    It’s really just that simple.
                    Yes, Ali and s rr and Joe Louis and Pac are greater than Frazier, turpin, schmelling and Floyd respectively. I'm hearing you.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by hugh grant

                      Yes, Ali and s rr and Joe Louis and Pac are greater than Frazier, turpin, schmelling and Floyd respectively. I'm hearing you.
                      You must not be able to read and comprehend English well. Despite the fact they have wins over them

                      SRR>Turpin
                      Ali>Frazier
                      Louis>Schmelling

                      Floyd beat Manny head up. Unlike the boxers
                      above. Hence,

                      Floyd>> Manny

                      That is why Floyd continues to win polls like this. It isn’t hard to understand.

                      You lied about a wbc poll to try and finally say there is one where Manny won. Lmfao.

                      Why are you so upset Manny is #2 in Floyd’s generation? That is a great accomplishment. You should be happy.
                      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 12-29-2025, 02:06 PM.

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