The Ring Magazine Top 10 fighters of the 21st Century

[The Big Dunn]

There's polls that have Manny above Floyd

We pull them up but you make excuses for them

Stop lying.

[The Big Dunn]

If Floyd wanted full credit for beating Manny he would have made a fight with him in 2009

You don't duck a guy until he is shopworn then say I am better it don't work like that

Manny ducked him then. Manny ducked the $40 mil offer. He ducked when Nevada extended Floyd’s jail start date.

You hold that against Floyd because it’s the only way you can try and mitigate the win over Manny because you’re a Manny ball gurgling stan.

Manny made his decisions to duck. Accept them and hold him accountable.

[The Big Dunn]

Those guys were in their prime.

Manny wasn’t so Floyd don't get no credit for it

How about you just try and be honest by admitting you’re a ball gurgling, nut gobbling Manny Stan that will not give Floyd credit because you hate him.

It’s ok. Your credit doesn’t matter. Manny could’ve fought him earlier. He chose not to.

[The Big Dunn]

manny was ultimately defeated by his archenemy Juan

beating Floyd was manny's only shot to take the era and become a top 10 all time

manny fumbled badly

Floyd toyed with manny and stayed in 1st gear the entire fight

All he had to do was take the $40 mil deal to prove he really wanted to fight Floyd.

If the **** riding loser fans of Manny are to be believed, Manny might have won.

I disagree because Floyd has always been the better man but let’s play it out.

Manny wins now he is the undisputed champion, new cash cow, and best boxer of his generation. He has Floyd’s scalp which makes up for every loss he’s had.

All the money his nut gurgling loser fans say he would’ve forfeited by taking the deal, he’d have made back in a rematch and all the other fights he’d make as the cash cow.

Further. He likely gets the MMA crossover fight where he makes a staggering amount of money.

Instead he ducked and got ktfo for far less than the $40 mil, but made over $100 mil to get beat 10-2, 10-2, 9-3 and then makes himself look more pathetic by claiming a shoulder injury because he wasn’t allowed to use Toradol as a performance enhancement.

He made his decision. His loser fans need to live with it and get over the loss.

[tokon]

The Floyd and Manny fans will no doubt lose their sh** and ruin this thread very shortly, but overall I’d say it’s a pretty fair list.

Ward and Canelo should both be higher IMO.

Marquez is maybe unfortunate not to make the list too. Not sure who I’d omit in his place though tbf.

Like all lists like this, highly subjective but not a bad list imo. Sticking with those candidates, I'd have put Ward and Canelo in after Inoue. Not really convinced on Gonzalez or Loma but can't be bothered to give it more thought.

[hugh grant]

There's polls that have Manny above Floyd

We pull them up but you make excuses for them

Who voted for floyd in these polls are shrouded in secrecy. RJJ said pac is greater than floyd. To say Floyd is greater is controversial. SSM said floyd was too scared to lose and it effected every decision and behaviour of floyd, implying you can't hold someone like floyd as the yardstick. SSm also said he thinks pac deserved the win over floyd. SSM thinks pac threw and landed more punches and thinks something shady with punch stats

[Coverdale]

All he had to do was take the $40 mil deal to prove he really wanted to fight Floyd.

This is a nonsense argument. I won't engage with the rest because it's a waste of time. But you know this is nonsense.

[Coverdale]

What both men and their extended teams should have done back in 2009 was handle the negotiations for the most important fight in history with class and decorum rather than negotiating through the media.

[The Big Dunn]

This is a nonsense argument. I won't engage with the rest because it's a waste of time. But you know this is nonsense.

Actually it is not. Taking less to earn more is a common sports argument.

For a long time The same thing has been said by those Manny fans. So I am holding Manny to that same standard.

Obviously we never know what could’ve happened and I played it out based on the argument that the JMM ko took everything out of Manny.

The JMM ko doesn’t happen if he takes the $40 mil and fights Floyd. That is an irrefutable fact.

I just don’t see why Floyd was required to make an offer that treated manny like anything other than just another opponent.

[djtmal]

Stop lying.

That's what you do