The Ring Magazine Top 10 fighters of the 21st Century

[aAgger]

Ward and Canelo should be #6 and #7.

[Coverdale]

Sven Ottke should replace Ward.

[hugh grant]

According to dumbass Pac fans, Pac’s win over Thurman is better than Floyd’s win over Pac despite the fact that Thurman lost to an older Pac years after Floyd already dominated Pac

this post is just wrong, lazy reasoning at best, at worst my reply would be too Xrated
so if pac steps up to 8 divisions and beats arguably one of the best in pac s 8th division. Floyd beating pac is better achievement than pac winning title in 8 th division, at advanced age? Floyd fans like saying things like no matter what Nel o does here on in, floyd will always have that win over nelo? Same story all over again. So if pac beats David benavides floyd will always have a win over pac?
I have no words, literally astounded by your calculation?

[SouthpawRight]

According to dumbass Pac fans, Pac’s win over Thurman is better than Floyd’s win over Pac despite the fact that Thurman lost to an older Pac years after Floyd already dominated Pac

MOPPED

[The Big Dunn]

this post is just wrong, lazy reasoning at best, at worst my reply would be too Xrated
so if pac steps up to 8 divisions and beats arguably one of the best in pac s 8th division. Floyd beating pac is better achievement than pac winning title in 8 th division, at advanced age? Floyd fans like saying things like no matter what Nel o does here on in, floyd will always have that win over nelo? Same story all over again. So if pac beats David benavides floyd will always have a win over pac?
I have no words, literally astounded by your calculation?

You say the exact same thing about Cotto when it comes to Manny.

Stop your whining and crying you nut gobbling biyatch.

Floyd will always have a win over Manny. Manny will always have to live with the fact he ducked Floyd over the $40 mil no ppv, (most amount of money he would’ve ever made) cherry-picked JMM for less money, and got ktfo.

You can’t rewrite history no matter how much you want to.

[hugh grant]

You say the exact same thing about Cotto when it comes to Manny.

Stop your whining and crying you nut gobbling biyatch.

Floyd will always have a win over Manny. Manny will always have to live with the fact he ducked Floyd over the $40 mil no ppv, (most amount of money he would’ve ever made) cherry-picked JMM for less money, and got ktfo.

You can’t rewrite history no matter how much you want to.

So beating a former light flyweight is better than pac pac being oldest WW champ ever in 8th weight class in 70th fight?
So bradley beating pac, is more history making and better than anything pac can ever do? Bradley will always have that win over pac? Yes, so what is your point?

[daggum]

You say the exact same thing about Cotto when it comes to Manny.

Stop your whining and crying you nut gobbling biyatch.

Floyd will always have a win over Manny. Manny will always have to live with the fact he ducked Floyd over the $40 mil no ppv, (most amount of money he would’ve ever made) cherry-picked JMM for less money, and got ktfo.

You can’t rewrite history no matter how much you want to.

floyd would have made the most money he made if he didnt change his own demands...how come it only goes one way? floyd made 30 million or so to fight guys like maidana but would have made 200-300 million if he fought pac but instead he changed his own demands. how do you not get that? you really think pac should have accepted 40 million no ppv? i mean get real. pac was literally selling more ppvs at that point than floyd and doing bigger live gates when floyd changed his own demands. there is a whole thread i made proving that. that was clearly floyd ducking.

you can rewrite history. you just did it by twisting everything the way you want it but the facts are floyd said he would fight pac if he agreed to testing and a 50-50 split. he didnt fight pac when pac agreed. thats pacs fault how? why not just be real and say wow floyd ducked the fight and was full of hot air? thats what happened. you dont say 14 day cut off is fine, the nchange to 0 days if fine, then change the money and get to say pac ducked the fight. pac was doing all the work to try and make the fight happen while floyd was doing all the work to constantly move the goalposts. it was pathetic oh yeah and pac landed almost all the clean punches in the fight and should have won but i know you ignore that too...

[daggum]

So beating a former light flyweight is better than pac pac being oldest WW champ ever in 8th weight class in 70th fight?
So bradley beating pac, is more history making and better than anything pac can ever do? Bradley will always have that win over pac? Yes, so what is your point?

bradley beat pac first therefore bradley is better than floyd. oh and jeff horn is almost as good as floyd

[hugh grant]

bradley beat pac first therefore bradley is better than floyd. oh and jeff horn is almost as good as floyd

Yes they try do floyd too many favours.
Why can't floyd just get credit for beating one of the best ww at the time in.pac? Just like pac best one of the best ww in tnurman. But difference is pac is in his 8th class at 41, and thurman was unbeaten and had every advantage. Floyd fans will be like floyd 2 years older duh

[The Big Dunn]

floyd would have made the most money he made if he didnt change his own demands...how come it only goes one way? floyd made 30 million or so to fight guys like maidana but would have made 200-300 million if he fought pac but instead he changed his own demands. how do you not get that? you really think pac should have accepted 40 million no ppv? i mean get real. pac was literally selling more ppvs at that point than floyd and doing bigger live gates when floyd changed his own demands. there is a whole thread i made proving that. that was clearly floyd ducking.

you can rewrite history. you just did it by twisting everything the way you want it but the facts are floyd said he would fight pac if he agreed to testing and a 50-50 split. he didnt fight pac when pac agreed. thats pacs fault how? why not just be real and say wow floyd ducked the fight and was full of hot air? thats what happened. you dont say 14 day cut off is fine, the nchange to 0 days if fine, then change the money and get to say pac ducked the fight. pac was doing all the work to try and make the fight happen while floyd was doing all the work to constantly move the goalposts. it was pathetic oh yeah and pac landed almost all the clean punches in the fight and should have won but i know you ignore that too...

Stop the BS defending Manny for ducking daggum.

Floyd was the a side. That’s why it only goes one way.

Example, you have never said ODH would’ve had his biggest payday had he accepted any of Floyd’s challenges even though he did when he fought Floyd.

Stop exaggerating Manny as a money machine. He wasn’t selling more at live gates or on ppv. He had never made that much at the time of the offer.

Had things been reversed, you’d be saying Floyd should’ve taken the payday to prove he wanted the fight and the title.

Pac agreed after Floyd took the offer off the table because Manny kept refusing testing. What you wanted was Floyd to treat Manny as an equal when they weren’t equals.

Who are you to tell anyone how to negotiate a deal?

Bottom line, which you can’t change no matter how hard you try, is Manny took less to fight JMM. He got ktfo. That isn’t on Floyd.

That is karma for Manny ducking.

You thinking Manny should’ve won shows that you have 0 credibility.