The Ring Magazine Top 10 fighters of the 21st Century

[SouthpawRight]

I would be curious to know what they valued more for this ranking. For example, I love Crawford and think he's downright amazing. But his resume is pretty thin - he has Spence and Canelo. If he doesn't take the Canelo fight and win, he doesn't come close to sniffing this list. Is 1 fight enough to propel you into Top10 of last 25 years?

Because TBud mopping Saul is one of the best wins ever

same tier as Roberto Sugar Leonard

Floyd is one of the greatest defensive boxers ever, that is why he never got ktfo like Manny.

Floyd has a serious case for being the most skilled boxer ever

Willie Pep and Benny Leonard abilities are marveled over for being master boxers

See how easily Floyd handled manny compared to Benny v Lew

Ward and Hopkins have no business on this list. Could easily replace them with Cotto, Marco Antonio Barrera, Morales, or even Donaire ahead of them. Might even favor Calzaghe, Mosley, Marquez and Bradley while I'm at it. Ward and Hopkins were highly overrated, dirty, and boring.

those guys are nowhere near as good as Bernard and Andre higher class of fighters

personal prefrences for styles are a non-factor when rating achievements in boxing

[IronDanHamza]

Because TBud mopping Saul is one of the best wins ever

same tier as Roberto Sugar Leonard

Eh, it's no where near that.

[SouthpawRight]

Of these top 10 of the current century so far

only 1 Floyd managed to crack top 10 all time

modern boxing is structured in a way that makes it extremely difficult to surpass the top 5 all time

1. Sugar Robinson
2. Harry
3. Henry
4. Sam
5. Ezzard
6. Willie
7. Muhammad
8. Roberto
9. Sugar Leonard
10. Floyd
11. Joe Louis
12. Benny Leonard
13. Pernell
14. manny
15. Jimmy
16. Mickey
17. Archie
18. Carlos
19. Marvin
20. Barney
21. Tony
22. Julio Cesar
23. Rocky
24. Larry
25. Gene
26. Jack
27. TBud

next greatest guy of the century manny is slot 14 all time

TBud slot 27

[djtmal]

Floyd is one of the greatest defensive boxers ever, that is why he never got ktfo like Manny.

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When you are only cherrypicking slow flat footed come forward faded fighters you tend to take less punches

[djtmal]

Because TBud mopping Saul is one of the best wins ever

No it's not. It's just not

[JOITATS]

How can I be a casual when I've got about 25,000 posts on here spamming like 15+ years lol

MJ is exactly that and a guy that fans pretended was some monster just to hype Inoue up.
He's 14-2, any semi-notable wins he has are vs guys like Ronny Rios which is by far one of his better wins worryingly.
Same with the guy who beat him; Marlon Tapales, a guy with 3 losses to virtual nobodies, bad losses & who has this guy beaten? A load of scrubs with unpronounceable names and records of like 27-11, journeymen and not particularly good ones at that.
This guy; Tapales got a title shot by beating a guy who was 23-18!

Most of the baby divisions are dead, its full of Japanese fighters who frankly can't box and there are so many titles and titles given out that we constantly see literal domestic level fighters grabbing them. Just about anyone in the top 20-30 even 40-50 are grabbing a title of some description these days. Then these sneering fans of the lower divisions pretend they are world class just to justify their favourite fighters with terribly padded records beating them. They have practically given everyone a title and pretend they're all great fighters, its pathetic.
Only in these baby weights are these unjustified title shots, padded records etc accepted and even praised. If someone at 175 won a title by beating someone who was say 25-12-2 everyone would call it out but in these baby weights fans pretend its some amazing feat, its weird. The standard is totally different, there is virtually no standard at the lower weights.

Leo top level? didn't he just get a gift over some shot, old, face-first fighter that Jamie McDonnell beat?

The thing is people say casual & stuff but if I was to say ok he's top level, lets play, give me this guys top 5 best wins, I guarantee 99% of fans who supposedly know all about the lower weights couldn't even give me 5 fighters they have fought let alone the top 5.

There isn't one Rigondeaux, one Loma, Barrera, Morales, Gonzalez & so on at these lower weights.
These divisions used to be full of guys like Chacon, Arguello, Olivares, Lopez and countless world class Mexican fighters, true world class. Skilled, brutal little punchers now they are just full of Japanese zombies blocking punches with their big heads and terrible journeymen posing as world class fighters. Almost all of them are Japanese so really all you have is domestic level boxing with a truck load of titles thrown into the mix. Its not like when it was when you had tons of Mexican killers.

You have Bam who is elite imo, the vast majority of the others are only deemed world class as some have to be. They aren't truly world class let alone elite.
Awful fighters winning a vacant title vs 22-8 journeymen in a split decision and defending it vs 34-11, 20-6 opponents doesn't make them p4p or elite.

Tbf to Haney he's already had a better career than MJ, Tapales, Leo and all these guys combined.
I don't know why people hate on Haney lets be honest he's had a better career than just about all his haters favourite fighters put together and he's still only 27.

Not even worth responding. 25,000 posts and? get a life.

Again you just proved you’re nothing but a casual.

[SouthpawRight]

No it's not. It's just not

yawn more bollocks from you because none of manny's wins can compare to TBud MOPPING Saul

[djtmal]

yawn more bollocks

Canelo was over the hill

[SouthpawRight]

Canelo was over the hill

so was Juan

difference being manny got knocked out by his best Mexican

It remarkable how easily TBud became all time great compared to manny

there’s a vast ability gap that disfavors manny

[SouthpawRight]

Of these top 10 of the current century so far

only 1 Floyd managed to crack top 10 all time

modern boxing is structured in a way that makes it extremely difficult to surpass the top 5 all time

1. Sugar Robinson
2. Harry
3. Henry
4. Sam
5. Ezzard
6. Willie
7. Muhammad
8. Roberto
9. Sugar Leonard
10. Floyd
11. Joe Louis
12. Benny Leonard
13. Pernell
14. manny
15. Jimmy
16. Mickey
17. Archie
18. Carlos
19. Marvin
20. Barney
21. Tony
22. Julio Cesar
23. Rocky
24. Larry
25. Gene
26. Jack
27. TBud

next greatest guy of the century manny is slot 14 all time

TBud slot 27

IronDanHamza you watch a lot of boxing

what would Top Soviet Bivol, Naoya, or Usyk need to do to surpass TBud top 30 all time now that his story is complete