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  • The Big Dunn
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    #521
    Originally posted by HisExcellency

    I DIDN'T dispute that...however, I was explaining to the other poster why despite coming in 2lbs lighter, Cotto was still more dangerous than the version Floyd faced due to a) Manny's inexperience at Welterweight b) Cotto being in his prime c) Cotto doing his best work at Welterweight.

    Mind your business!
    No you were making a f@ggity excuse for a guy you liked while having a different standard for someone you didn’t like.

    Cotto was still prime and a full 154 when Floyd fought him.

    Stop being a casual nut gobbler and hold everyone to the same standard.
    Last edited by The Big Dunn; 12-17-2025, 10:13 AM.

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      #522
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      No you were making a f@ggity excuse for a guy you liked while having a different standard for someone you didn’t like.

      Stop being a ***** casual nut gobbler and hold everyone to the same standard.
      Are you stupid or what? How is Manny asking for a 2lb weight reduction in only his SECOND fight at Welterweight the same as Floyd asking JMM to fight him at a catchweight despite already have 4 fights under his belt at Welterweight (and coming in heavier himself)?

      Make it make sense DUNCE?!

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        #523
        Originally posted by HisExcellency

        Are you stupid or what? How is Manny asking for a 2lb weight reduction in only his SECOND fight at Welterweight the same as Floyd asking JMM to fight him at a catchweight despite already have 4 fights under his belt at Welterweight (and coming in heavier himself)?

        Make it make sense DUNCE?!
        Stop making excuses for Manny asking for a cw. Doesn’t matter if it was his 2nd fight at ww.

        I didn’t post they were the same. I said a cw is a cw.

        Floyd was going down to 144 for the JMM fight having had 4 ww fights, coming off a nearly 2 year layoff.

        Therein lies the difference you dumb ass nut gobbling stan. He wasn’t making JMM come down in weight to defend his title like Manny did to Cotto.

        Yes, he only made it to 146 and then changed the contract. He still went down in weight.

        The better example would be Canelo, who he made come down in weight same as manny did to Cotto.

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        • HisExcellency
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          #524
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          Stop making excuses for Manny asking for a cw. Doesn’t matter if it was his 2nd fight at ww.

          I didn’t post they were the same. I said a cw is a cw.

          Floyd was going down to 144 for the JMM fight having had 4 ww fights, coming off a nearly 2 year layoff.

          Therein lies the difference you dumb ass nut gobbling stan. He wasn’t making JMM come down in weight to defend his title like Manny did to Cotto.

          Yes, he only made it to 146 and then changed the contract. He still went down in weight.

          The better example would be Canelo, who he made come down in weight same as manny did to Cotto.
          Hahaha you accuse me of making excuses but then reel off a bunch of BS to justify Floyd asking for a catchweight at a weight he was experienced in (and a champion) before coming in HEAVIER himself. What makes it worse is that Marquez had never fought above Lightweight prior to that fight either.

          Keep digging your grave deeper and making excuses you Mayweather dick riding ho!

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            #525
            Originally posted by HisExcellency

            Hahaha you accuse me of making excuses but then reel off a bunch of BS to justify Floyd asking for a catchweight at a weight he was experienced in (and a champion) before coming in HEAVIER himself. What makes it worse is that Marquez had never fought above Lightweight prior to that fight either.

            Keep digging your grave deeper and making excuses you Mayweather dick riding ho!
            I didn’t justify it in any way. I told the truth about the difference. Which is what you asked.

            I even gave you a better example of what you’re criticizing him for in that he made Canelo come down in weight.

            I didn’t think you were that dumb. Clearly I was mistaken.

            Yes, which is why he came down to 146 for the JMM fight.

            Manny had fought at 147, so there was no need to bring Cotto down. Same as Floyd had fought at 154.
            Last edited by The Big Dunn; 12-17-2025, 10:47 AM.

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              #526
              This thread instantly turned into just Floyd vs Pacquiao. SMH

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                #527
                Originally posted by Carpe Diem
                This thread instantly turned into just Floyd vs Pacquiao. SMH
                It's a mental illness which deserves its own diagnosis at this point. They seem to think repeating their stale talking points one more time is going to be the victory they've been hunting for the past 16 years.

                The two sets of obsessives value completely different things and are talking past each other aimlessly.

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                • HisExcellency
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                  #528
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                  I didn’t justify it in any way. I told the truth about the difference. Which is what you asked.

                  I even gave you a better example of what you’re criticizing him for in that he made Canelo come down in weight.

                  I didn’t think you were that dumb. Clearly I was mistaken.

                  Yes, which is why he came down to 146 for the JMM fight.

                  Manny had fought at 147, so there was no need to bring Cotto down. Same as Floyd had fought at 154.
                  Actually Manny only weighed 142lbs on the scales against DLH so he actually had ZERO experience fighting at 147lbs unlike your BS claims. He also came in under the catchweight limit (144lbs) against Cotto too.

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                    #529
                    Originally posted by HisExcellency

                    Actually Manny only weighed 142lbs on the scales against DLH so he actually had ZERO experience fighting at 147lbs unlike your BS claims. He also came in under the catchweight limit (144lbs) against Cotto too.
                    I said the fight was at a full 147. Meaning Manny’s opponent didn’t have to drain down.

                    Geez dude you can’t be this dumb.

                    The Cotto cw was 146. All I said was it wasn’t at a full 147, which it wasn’t.

                    You’re making excuses for cw’s because it’s Manny. Just stop.

                    If you’re pointing Manny was smaller we agree.

                    Which is why any of this talk about fighting prime Floyd who would’ve had a 10 lb advantage is all BS because Floyd wouldn’t have given him any cw.
                    Last edited by The Big Dunn; 12-17-2025, 02:15 PM.

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                      #530
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      I said the fight was at a full 147. Meaning Manny’s opponent didn’t have to drain down.

                      Geez dude you can’t be this dumb.

                      The Cotto cw was 146. All I said was it wasn’t at a full 147, which it wasn’t.

                      You’re making excuses for cw’s because it’s Manny. Just stop.

                      If you’re pointing Manny was smaller we agree.

                      Which is why any of this talk about fighting prime Floyd who would’ve had a 10 lb advantage is all BS because Floyd wouldn’t have given him any cw.
                      I know dumbass but I was just pointing out the fact that Manny had never fought higher than 142lbs before facing Cotto. Therefore, insisting on a 146lbs catchweight seems perfectly REASONABLE to me unlike Mayweather who had 4 fights at Welterweight (and was a champion) yet insisted on fighting JMM at a catchweight before coming in HEAVIER himself!

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