The GOAT! Pacquiao or Floyd or Crawford?

[SouthpawRight]

Dont be daft. They are good opponents for that stage of Pacs career coming off of a ko. And considered Pacs resume was better than any of his peers, yes, hes earnt right to do what he wants. If your no1 like floyd, you cant really do what you want as you are proving you are the best, then you will need to justify that title.

speaking of daft get your own fighter's timeline right

manny just had another decision win over Timmeh who was a good fighter

manny wasn't coming off of a ko loss when he began his run of cherries: Jessie-Jeff-Lucas-Adrien

SPR==hugh grant

I find exchanging with you a frustrating experience which is why I had you on ignore for a while. You engage in what's known as sh0tgun argumentation where you post walls of text containing weak and unstructured arguments. I know this is the internet where everyone wants to "win" but could you try sticking to the subject please?

Would you have preferred Pacquiao - Margarito to be at the 147lb limit for the WBO belt and, if so, who would have benefited most from this?

154 because the intention was for manny to have 8th division belt. take it at the full limit then

other arguments were mentioned after you framed it as the bogus title and catchweight being the ONLY problems with the bout + called it EXCELLENT win lol. No, not that version of margarito who manny was clear betting favorite against.

use brain recognize nuance and see multiple reasons rather than just one or two

You're welcome to block again as my posts upset you. the british signature femme passive-aggression is trollololol

[TheProudLunatic]

Losing decision to Jeff was the price the boxing gods made manny pay for going on awful run of cherries Jessie-Jeff-Lucas-Adrien

4 cherries in a row is unheard of for a modern great

this isnt the black and white era with twice a month fighting so cabdriver oops are allowed

His cherry count is astronomical
99% of his WW career is an abomination
All he has is Thurman

[TheProudLunatic]

Dont be daft. They are good opponents for that stage of Pacs career coming off of a ko. And considered Pacs resume was better than any of his peers, yes, hes earnt right to do what he wants. If your no1 like floyd, you cant really do what you want as you are proving you are the best, then you will need to justify that title.

Hmmmm
By being the face of boxing/p4p king/cash cow, dontcha think May had the right to do as he pleased ?!?!?!
Why is it NO ONE, not even Pac Boi's mention those opponents ?!?!?
Further, Pac's resume is so flimsy, none of you want to make a thread about how great it is

You all know that thread would get absolutely decimated with facts to support the opposite.
If anything, Pac is an ATG compiler.
It didn't hurt that he had an entire group of people fawning over his every move.
Too blinded by lust to to be honest with themselves.

"Hell yes ! Pac fighting the worst versions of so many guys is what makes him ATG #3 !"
".....May never left America/LV..............."
".....May wanted Pac to take RANDOM BLOOD tests..........."
".....We didn't have enough time to build the perfect stadium for such an event............"

[djtmal]

Yes, they would.

If SRR SRL and Muhammad Ali.

Lmao.

You talk boxing to anyone who goes back to the 70s and I guarantee you nobody and I mean nobody is putting Canelo in the same stratosphere as Srl and Ali

Your dedication to making excuses for Floyd is admirable

[hugh grant]

Hmmmm
By being the face of boxing/p4p king/cash cow, dontcha think May had the right to do as he pleased ?!?!?!
Why is it NO ONE, not even Pac Boi's mention those opponents ?!?!?
Further, Pac's resume is so flimsy, none of you want to make a thread about how great it is

You all know that thread would get absolutely decimated with facts to support the opposite.
If anything, Pac is an ATG compiler.
It didn't hurt that he had an entire group of people fawning over his every move.
Too blinded by lust to to be honest with themselves.

"Hell yes ! Pac fighting the worst versions of so many guys is what makes him ATG #3 !"
".....May never left America/LV..............."
".....May wanted Pac to take RANDOM BLOOD tests..........."
".....We didn't have enough time to build the perfect stadium for such an event............"

As I said pacs achievements were the best he had no equal amongst peers. And of course is the pf p king of era. But as floyd was American of course he was deemed no1. But if your no1, we need to see it. Beating berto, and maid ana and Connor of course floyd wasn't in boxing to show him being no1was justified. Floyd knew he could be no1 doing less than pac

[djtmal]

As I said pacs achievements were the best he had no equal amongst peers. And of course is the pf p king of era. But as floyd was American of course he was deemed no1. But if your no1, we need to see it. Beating berto, and maid ana and Connor of course floyd wasn't in boxing to show him being no1was justified. Floyd knew he could be no1 doing less than pac

Well he could be No. 1 with his fans and casuals

[IronDanHamza]

He doesn't choose, but staging all of his fights in Vegas meant there was a very small pool from which referees would be chosen from. He obviously enjoyed "home" advantage and why wouldn't he? I already conceded to you on a previous exchange that from his perspective it was logical to do this. I just don't have to respect it.

Enjoyed home advantage how?

Firstly, Las Vegas isn't his hometown as previously stated.

Secondly, you're asserting he "enjoys" an advantage. Do you have any evidence for this or is this just another pluck out of thin air job?

You're effectively conceding here that you prioritise other factors over simply remaining undefeated. That's good, and I agree. So it's surely not too much of a leap for you to understand that if one didn't enjoy his negative style of boxing either then it's quite easy to be completely nonplussed by his career.

I couldn't care less what you enjoy or don't enjoy. That's subjective and totally up to you.

What I have issue with is you claiming Floyd having the career he did whilst reamining undefeated isn't something that's unlikely when it's absolutely the epitome of unlikely.

[IronDanHamza]

Lmao.

You talk boxing to anyone who goes back to the 70s and I guarantee you nobody and I mean nobody is putting Canelo in the same stratosphere as Srl and Ali

Right yes, I just said that. No one would put Canelo next to Ray Leonard or Muahmmad Ali.

But they would put him next to say, Julio Cesar Chavez.

You don't have to be a Top 10 ATG like those two to be an ATG. There are more than 10 ATG's. And if that is your standard then almost nobody beat a prime ATG.

Your dedication to making excuses for Floyd is admirable

Excuse where? And excuse for what?

Where have I made an excuse for anything?

[Coverdale]

Enjoyed home advantage how?

Firstly, Las Vegas isn't his hometown as previously stated.

Secondly, you're asserting he "enjoys" an advantage. Do you have any evidence for this or is this just another pluck out of thin air job?

Because he was the star attraction in the city he lived in. Anyone else was always the away fighter.

I think you're just being argumentative for the sake of it now. There's a reason people enjoy fighting at "home", Calzaghe and Ottke being two undefeated examples (with obviously weaker resumes before we get derailed into another tedious secondary argument).

Are we done or was there anything else?

[IronDanHamza]

Because he was the star attraction in the city he lived in. Anyone else was always the away fighter.

Manny Pacquaio was just as big a star in Las Vegas as Mayweather. So was Oscar. Ricky Hatton was a star in Las Vegas. Canelo Alvarez was and is a star in Las Vegas.

Did they receive this imaginary advantage also? Or is it just exclusive to Floyd?

You haven't actually demonstrably shown that his "advantage" is, other than just saying it exists. I've no clue what you're referring to.

You've asserted Kenny Bayless is Floyd's "favourite ref" when I've no clue how you know that. And even if it were demonstrably true he still has no influence on who refs his fights.

I think you're just being argumentative for the sake of it now. There's a reason people enjoy fighting at "home", Calzaghe and Ottke being two undefeated examples (with obviously weaker resumes before we get derailed into another tedious secondary argument).

Ok but Mayweather's hometown isn't Las Vegas.

I also don't know what advantages Calzaghe had in the UK either you would have to demonstrate to me what they were.