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He doesn't choose, but staging all of his fights in Vegas meant there was a very small pool from which referees would be chosen from. He obviously enjoyed "home" advantage and why wouldn't he? I already conceded to you on a previous exchange that from his perspective it was logical to do this. I just don't have to respect it.
You're effectively conceding here that you prioritise other factors over simply remaining undefeated. That's good, and I agree. So it's surely not too much of a leap for you to understand that if one didn't enjoy his negative style of boxing either then it's quite easy to be completely nonplussed by his career.Comment
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You have to beat people you're not supposed to beat, not just ATGs in.prime. Like pac beating thurman and barrios, on paper pac shouldn't be doing it. And Pac got ssm, dlh and cotto to say pac was toughest. A former flyweight shouldn't be toughest and the fact that Pac was the toughest it dont matter if if they were in their primes or not!?
FLoyd should have fought GGG at 160. Floyd might not be beating a man considered an ATG and in his prime, but floyd shouldnt be winning that fight, and as a result would get real credit.Last edited by hugh grant; 11-30-2025, 10:20 AM.Comment
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Other than the bogus title on the line, I've never understood this criticism. They could have drained Margarito all the way down to 147lbs for the WBO belt and Margarito would have been even more impaired. It was an excellent win against a much bigger man irrespective of the belt. I think team Pacquiao realised they'd reach their physical ceiling here because he never fought above 147lbs again.Comment
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because WHEN beat
Shane pushed Antonio ish in he was never a force again
this diminished Antonio then gets catchweighted to boot at a weight he sooked at
At least take the belt at the limit since manny scheme was to face the weakest beltholder
147 antonio would have meant no bogus 8th division title for manny
manny played a lot of games in matchmaking from the Miguel to Juan 3 segment of his career
waiting until opps were vulnerable coming off of questionable performances, weight manipulation, et al.
Then Jessie-Jeff-Lucas-Adrien was a cherry stretch. Floyd and Terence would get clowned on by the public if they picked 4 easies in a rowComment
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Losing decision to Jeff was the price the boxing gods made manny pay for going on awful run of cherries Jessie-Jeff-Lucas-Adrien
4 cherries in a row is unheard of for a modern great
this isnt the black and white era with twice a month fighting so cabdriver oops are allowedComment
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Dont be daft. They are good opponents for that stage of Pacs career coming off of a ko. And considered Pacs resume was better than any of his peers, yes, hes earnt right to do what he wants. If your no1 like floyd, you cant really do what you want as you are proving you are the best, then you will need to justify that title.Last edited by hugh grant; 11-30-2025, 10:45 AM.Comment
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I find exchanging with you a frustrating experience which is why I had you on ignore for a while. You engage in what's known as sh0tgun argumentation where you post walls of text containing weak and unstructured arguments. I know this is the internet where everyone wants to "win" but could you try sticking to the subject please?
Would you have preferred Pacquiao - Margarito to be at the 147lb limit for the WBO belt and, if so, who would have benefited most from this?Last edited by Coverdale; 11-30-2025, 10:43 AM.Comment
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manny lost wide 10-2 when he finally faced a SRR good level boxer Floyd
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