The GOAT! Pacquiao or Floyd or Crawford?

[The Big Dunn]

No he doesn't.

He agreed to every little Floyd whim. Your boy kept moving the goalposts because he was too scared

Floyd was scared. It was ok. He made the fight when the risk was at it lowest

No he didn’t. You’re just blatantly lying now.

He was too scared. Cherry-picked a lesser opponent for less money thinking he’d get an easy win. Instead, he got ktfo.

He had no other choice but to finally agree to fight because he couldn’t risk using the duck fight someone else plan anymore because if it backfired again there’d be no fight at all.

[djtmal]

TUE. No positive test. Nothing really more to discuss.

He was illegal

[djtmal]

No he didn’tll.

Yes he did

Floyd was scared

Kept moving the goalposts

[djtmal]

Cherry-picked a lll.

Floyd cherrypicked lw Marquez. Pulled him up two divisions in one fight

[Elastic Recoilz]

I'm sure there would've been managers/financial advisers whispering in both Floyd and Manny's ears to let the fight marinate for as long as possible so that it would generate more money. Similar to Tyson vs Lewis which should've happened in the mid 90's but ended up going off in 2002 as a financially much bigger event

[HisExcellency]

Pacquiao will go down HIGHER in the history books because...

1) Only 8 division world champion in boxing
2) Only 4 decade world champion in boxing
3) Started off his career in a much lower weight class (Junior Flyweight) so is naturally the smaller man

[djtmal]

I'm sure there would've been managers/financial advisers whispering in both Floyd and Manny's ears to let the fight marinate for as long as possible so that it would generate more money. Similar to Tyson vs Lewis which should've happened in the mid 90's but ended up going off in 2002 as a financially much bigger event

No later than 2011 would have been cool

Floyd was making up too many excuses and moving the goalposts too much

[SouthpawRight]

Pacquiao will go down HIGHER in the history books because...

1) Only 8 division world champion in boxing
2) Only 4 decade world champion in boxing
3) Started off his career in a much lower weight class (Junior Flyweight) so is naturally the smaller man

I have manny outside top 10 all time because he was ultimately conquered by Juan and Floyd

And far from a contender for most skilled ever

this is with manny having had ALL of the advantages going into at least half of those Juan fights

1. Sugar Robinson
2. Harry
3. Henry
4. Sam
5. Ezzard
6. Willie
7. Muhammad
8. Roberto
9. Sugar Leonard
10. Floyd
11. Joe
12. Benny
13. Pernell
14. manny
15. Jimmy
16. Mickey
17. Archie
18. Carlos
19. Marvin
20. Barney
21. Tony
22. Julio Cesar
23. Rocky
24. Larry
25. Gene
26. Jack
27. TBud

Time will if Top Soviet Bivol, Naoya, or Usyk surpasses TBud in these rankings

Top Soviet Bivol needs MOP Artur THRICE, Fat Dave, and Parker’s Cousin Buff Guy Jai. Fat Dave and Buff Guy Jai becoming 1st ballot hall of famers would sweeten the deal

Usyk would need to beat BBC Biblical Moses in impressive fashion and see him go onto become All Time Great

Same story with Naoya and Junto. Naoya is the youngest and has more routes where he could surpass TBud

[HisExcellency]

I have manny outside top 10 all time because he was ultimately conquered by Juan and Floyd

And far from a contender for most skilled ever

this is with manny having had ALL of the advantages going into at least half of those Juan fights

1. Sugar Robinson
2. Harry
3. Henry
4. Sam
5. Ezzard
6. Willie
7. Muhammad
8. Roberto
9. Sugar Leonard
10. Floyd
11. Joe
12. Benny
13. Pernell
14. manny
15. Jimmy
16. Mickey
17. Archie
18. Carlos
19. Marvin
20. Barney
21. Tony
22. Julio Cesar
23. Rocky
24. Larry
25. Gene
26. Jack
27. TBud

Time will if Top Soviet Bivol, Naoya, or Usyk surpasses TBud in these rankings

Top Soviet Bivol needs MOP Artur THRICE, Fat Dave, and Parker’s Cousin Buff Guy Jai. Fat Dave and Buff Guy Jai becoming 1st ballot hall of famers would sweeten the deal

Usyk would need to beat BBC Biblical Moses in impressive fashion and see him go onto become All Time Great

Same story with Naoya and Junto. Naoya is the youngest and has more routes where he could surpass TBud

Manny is still 2-1-1 up in the series against Juan (should really be 3-1 if the judge in the first fight added his scorecard up correctly). Also, Marquez was most likely on PEDs in the 4th fight as he started working with a well known PED pusher during this camp and was able to drop Manny twice despite being UNABLE to do so in their first 3 fights.

Re Floyd, he cherry-picked Manny after he'd been KTFO by Marquez instead of facing him in his prime a decade earlier when he was dangerous. Mayweather should also have a couple of losses to his name but was protected due to being the #1 PPV draw at the time.

[djtmal]

Floyd without question lost to Castillo, and should have dq'd vs Zab