What has happened to the Charlo brothers?

[famicommander]

Insecurity, low intelligence, booze, drugs, and untreated mental health issues.

[QueensburyRules]

- - N'er speak ill of the dead and dying...

[TintaBoricua]

They're supposed to be active fighting in the higher weight divisions.

It would seem they have lost all sense of purpose in the boxing career they chose to be in.

I think it all goes to boxing being a different sport where losing is so huge a deal.

Tank Davis himself admitted worrying about getting embarrassed losing.

There’s a great quote that I read not too long ago in one of Thomas Hauser’s books. In it, I believe he quoted Floyd Patterson when he said that what fighters fear most is not necessarily the pain or another fighter per se. What they fear most is the sensation of being embarrassed in front of others…

…which is essentially what it’s like to be losing in a fight. You can’t rely on team-mates, you can’t call for a timeout, you can’t lie back and coast. You’re essentially bare in front of thousands (maybe millions) and every little thing is magnified. It’s a lot of pressure and it’s why I believe this sport is more brutal than it looks. You can be the most chiseled, strongest brute when you step in the ring, but if the mental makeup of a fighter isn’t there, then strength and power mean jack.

If Jermell had fought again by now he could’ve salvaged his career, but right now it might be Jermell of all people to be more in the public’s good graces than his brother…boxing is quite fickle.

What other sport (besides combat) can you be ridiculed on your way out of the arena while being hurt, battered, concussed, or stretched? Imagine that, fighting for your life, genuinely giving it your all and having thousands who previously adulated you turn on a dime and ridicule you as you’re getting your clock cleaned…it’s not the pain so much, but rather being metaphorically undressed and not being able to do anything about it. And if you pull the plug (as say Nicholas Walters Guillermo Rigondeaux did against Loma), you will never hear the end of it.

[SouthpawRight]

Being "rich" is a relative, subjective term. Canelo got prime real estate properties in Mexico and America, and can retire without having to box again. Yet he's still fighting.

The Charlos barely scratched the surface in accumulating wealth out of their boxing profession. They have kids to feed, send to school till they become independent. Not to mention the money they need in their old age. Needs are unlimited. Resources are not.

Mexican fighters glory driven

AmeriBlacks are too but more money focused than the Mexicans

[MalevolentBite]

One of them might go into the hall of fame. The other one is undefeated & rich with mental health issues. Thats pretty much it.

[Sun_Tzu]

Probably too much money too early and alchohol/drugs. Its a real shame too, they reminded me a of Terry Norris a bit early on. I guess they are in their mid 30s now and have let some real promise slip away.

[TheIronMike]

They got personal issues and continue to surround themselves with toxic women that pit them against one another.

They from houston right? So business as usual.

[SouthpawRight]

There’s a great quote that I read not too long ago in one of Thomas Hauser’s books. In it, I believe he quoted Floyd Patterson when he said that what fighters fear most is not necessarily the pain or another fighter per se. What they fear most is the sensation of being embarrassed in front of others…

…which is essentially what it’s like to be losing in a fight. You can’t rely on team-mates, you can’t call for a timeout, you can’t lie back and coast. You’re essentially bare in front of thousands (maybe millions) and every little thing is magnified. It’s a lot of pressure and it’s why I believe this sport is more brutal than it looks. You can be the most chiseled, strongest brute when you step in the ring, but if the mental makeup of a fighter isn’t there, then strength and power mean jack.

If Jermell had fought again by now he could’ve salvaged his career, but right now it might be Jermell of all people to be more in the public’s good graces than his brother…boxing is quite fickle.

What other sport (besides combat) can you be ridiculed on your way out of the arena while being hurt, battered, concussed, or stretched? Imagine that, fighting for your life, genuinely giving it your all and having thousands who previously adulated you turn on a dime and ridicule you as you’re getting your clock cleaned…it’s not the pain so much, but rather being metaphorically undressed and not being able to do anything about it. And if you pull the plug (as say Nicholas Walters Guillermo Rigondeaux did against Loma), you will never hear the end of it.

Joe Frazier wrote the same in his book

fighters fear being humiliated beat so bad that they performed poorly

Fighters are wired differently from normal people who fear getting ko’d

they enjoy fighting too. Most don’t despite the bravado

[OnePunch]

There’s a great quote that I read not too long ago in one of Thomas Hauser’s books. In it, I believe he quoted Floyd Patterson when he said that what fighters fear most is not necessarily the pain or another fighter per se. What they fear most is the sensation of being embarrassed in front of others…

…which is essentially what it’s like to be losing in a fight. You can’t rely on team-mates, you can’t call for a timeout, you can’t lie back and coast. You’re essentially bare in front of thousands (maybe millions) and every little thing is magnified. It’s a lot of pressure and it’s why I believe this sport is more brutal than it looks. You can be the most chiseled, strongest brute when you step in the ring, but if the mental makeup of a fighter isn’t there, then strength and power mean jack.

If Jermell had fought again by now he could’ve salvaged his career, but right now it might be Jermell of all people to be more in the public’s good graces than his brother…boxing is quite fickle.

What other sport (besides combat) can you be ridiculed on your way out of the arena while being hurt, battered, concussed, or stretched? Imagine that, fighting for your life, genuinely giving it your all and having thousands who previously adulated you turn on a dime and ridicule you as you’re getting your clock cleaned…it’s not the pain so much, but rather being metaphorically undressed and not being able to do anything about it. And if you pull the plug (as say Nicholas Walters Guillermo Rigondeaux did against Loma), you will never hear the end of it.

tank davis disagrees with this statement..........

[tomhawq]

What other sport (besides combat) can you be ridiculed on your way out of the arena while being hurt, battered, concussed, or stretched? Imagine that, fighting for your life, genuinely giving it your all and having thousands who previously adulated you turn on a dime and ridicule you as you’re getting your clock cleaned…it’s not the pain so much, but rather being metaphorically undressed and not being able to do anything about it. And if you pull the plug (as say Nicholas Walters Guillermo Rigondeaux did against Loma), you will never hear the end of it.

Real fighters don't have that kind of mindset. They think in terms of winning, being crafty, tricky, able to inflict damage, etc.
Otherwise, you don't belong in the sport with that kind of mentality. Go get a regular job and don't even think of contact sports as a profession.