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  • Oregonian
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    #11
    Originally posted by Bennyleonard99
    Trinidad vs Winky. Pernell vs Trinidad. Oscar vs Paquiao. Norton vs Shavers. Spinks vs Tyson. Golota vs Brewster.
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    Trinidad was NEVER going to beat Winky at any given time in their careers.

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    • RockyKO
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      #12
      Adrien Broner against Maidana comes to mind. Maybe I was convinced he was going win because of his unhealthy confidence. He kept going up in weight and eventually ran into guys he couldn't just walk over. Anyways, he was never the same after that Maidana fight imo.

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      • Joseph
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        #13
        More recently, Caleb Plant. He did all he could with Benavidez before taking a beating. He started to look shaky with McCumby but fought a disciplined inside game to secure the win, but when he got to Resendiz, an average dude at best, he looked frail and ineffective at everything. Plant was never an amazing fighter but for six or seven rounds, he was often solid. He looked gassed after the first round with Armando.

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        • RockyKO
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          #14
          Originally posted by Joseph
          More recently, Caleb Plant. He did all he could with Benavidez before taking a beating. He started to look shaky with McCumby but fought a disciplined inside game to secure the win, but when he got to Resendiz, an average dude at best, he looked frail and ineffective at everything. Plant was never an amazing fighter but for six or seven rounds, he was often solid. He looked gassed after the first round with Armando.
          His cardio has always been a problem. He look absolute gassed out against Benavidez too. My man wasn't doing those 3 mile runs in the morning that every boxer should be.

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            #15
            How could any boxer be considered getting old overnight once they reach the age of 30? That’s the time when a fighter’s skills are gradually diminishing and bodies are gradually deteriorating. It’s very subtle but that’s when the aging process is slowly progressing by then.

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            • Bennyleonard99
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              #16
              Originally posted by Oregonian
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              Trinidad was NEVER going to beat Winky at any given time in their careers.
              Agree. But Tito got shutout 120-108 vs Winky. Peak Tito does better than that.

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                #17
                Fighting a zombie will age you too.

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                • Oregonian
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Bennyleonard99

                  Agree. But Tito got shutout 120-108 vs Winky. Peak Tito does better than that.
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                  I think you'll agree that a peak Tito got beat by Oscar. Oscar's decision to run the last four rounds cost him the fight but other than that, he was befuddling Tito like no tomorrow. A peak Tito got KO'd by a 36 year old Hopkins. So while I do agree that a peak Tito does better, it's only going to be slightly better. 118-110

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                  • Bennyleonard99
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Oregonian
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                    I think you'll agree that a peak Tito got beat by Oscar. Oscar's decision to run the last four rounds cost him the fight but other than that, he was befuddling Tito like no tomorrow. A peak Tito got KO'd by a 36 year old Hopkins. So while I do agree that a peak Tito does better, it's only going to be slightly better. 118-110
                    Peak Tito was about even with Oscar and Hopkins, both very close fights. Winky was an elite operator but can't rate him over Oscar or Hopkins, who handled him.

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