AJ made a big mistake leaving Robert Mckracken

**Smash** · 11-14-2025, 09:18 PM

he got out boxed and looked for a reason, he found out why lol

**dan_cov** · 11-14-2025, 11:27 PM

I've always said he was the best fit and as ridiculous as the whole ''Brilliant AJ'' thing was I felt I sort of understood it (or maybe not) but to me it was more mental coaching. AJ is a very insecure guy. Different fighters need different approaches.
I felt he could have built from that first Usyk fight - I'm in no way saying he could ever beat Usyk but it kept him in the fight and he managed to survive and did the distance at a good pace. There was positives to take from it.
I'd have understood if he went with another trainer for the rematch maybe to really try something new but stayed on good terms but I didn't get why Rob was thrown on the bus like that and basically took the whole blame. He did a lot for AJ and in hindsight he seemingly got the best out of him.

**dan_cov** · 11-14-2025, 11:41 PM

I think if he was with Rob he'd have swerved the Dubois fight or certainly had a better gameplan than whatever the hell that was also as Rob was very familiar with Dubois and worked with him in the amateurs.

That fight with Dubois still baffles me hands down, leaning back with his chin up. The whole roll the dice thing. One of the strangest performances I've seen all round

**IronDanHamza** · 11-14-2025, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by dan_cov

I've always said he was the best fit and as ridiculous as the whole ''Brilliant AJ'' thing was I felt I sort of understood it (or maybe not) but to me it was more mental coaching. AJ is a very insecure guy. Different fighters need different approaches.
I felt he could have built from that first Usyk fight - I'm in no way saying he could ever beat Usyk but it kept him in the fight and he managed to survive and did the distance at a good pace. There was positives to take from it.
I'd have understood if he went with another trainer for the rematch maybe to really try something new but stayed on good terms but I didn't get why Rob was thrown on the bus like that and basically took the whole blame. He did a lot for AJ and in hindsight he seemingly got the best out of him.

"Brilliant AJ" was said by Joby Clayton, not Rob Mckraken. Rob Mckraken would never do that.

How Joby Clayton managed to steal a living in boxing in general is beyond me, let alone how the fuck he managed to get into AJ's team for a small period of time.

**Grandma Lover** · 11-15-2025, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by NihonJim

Rob got the blame and the shaft when AJ lost to Usyk.

But the truth was AJ just wasn't good enough to beat Usyk.

Robert Garcia pulled an ultimate mercenary move training AJ for the Usyk rematch, he clearly didn't have a plan at all for that fight and after it was saying Tank Davis would KO AJ and stuff.

After leaving Rob his career was just weird.

His breakdown after the Usyk rematch, his weird antics after Helenius, losing his mind vs Dubois. Fighting Ngannou, now fighting Jake Paul.

There's been no consistency in anything since he left Rob

AJ isn't the brightest bulb in the box, I think Rob was the best coach for him and he seemed to be a good influence on AJ as well.

That's absolute bs. I dont like Robert Garcia but he had a good gameplan but Joshua doesn't have the mentality. He literally had all the physical advantages and if he was strong minded and wanted it he probably could of pulled it off. He definitely did better than the first fight I think.

Also the meltdown after shows you how weak and pampered he is.

**NihonJim** · 11-15-2025, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by dan_cov

I've always said he was the best fit and as ridiculous as the whole ''Brilliant AJ'' thing was I felt I sort of understood it (or maybe not) but to me it was more mental coaching. AJ is a very insecure guy. Different fighters need different approaches.
I felt he could have built from that first Usyk fight - I'm in no way saying he could ever beat Usyk but it kept him in the fight and he managed to survive and did the distance at a good pace. There was positives to take from it.
I'd have understood if he went with another trainer for the rematch maybe to really try something new but stayed on good terms but I didn't get why Rob was thrown on the bus like that and basically took the whole blame. He did a lot for AJ and in hindsight he seemingly got the best out of him.

Rob has a good history of coaching in rematches, Froch vs Kessler and Groves 2, AJ vs Ruiz 2

He was the sensible option for the Usyk rematch but everyone said oh no AJ needs a trainer to make him aggressive.

He CANT fight aggressive, he doesn't have the chin or stamina for that, Rob understood that and that's why he had AJ using his boxing.

**M312** · 11-15-2025, 02:35 AM

Everyone's an expert after the fact

**ShoulderRoll** · 11-15-2025, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by NihonJim

Rob got the blame and the shaft when AJ lost to Usyk.

But the truth was AJ just wasn't good enough to beat Usyk.

Robert Garcia pulled an ultimate mercenary move training AJ for the Usyk rematch, he clearly didn't have a plan at all for that fight and after it was saying Tank Davis would KO AJ and stuff.

After leaving Rob his career was just weird.

His breakdown after the Usyk rematch, his weird antics after Helenius, losing his mind vs Dubois. Fighting Ngannou, now fighting Jake Paul.

There's been no consistency in anything since he left Rob

AJ isn't the brightest bulb in the box, I think Rob was the best coach for him and he seemed to be a good influence on AJ as well.

Robert Garcia had Joshua going to the body well, he even hurt Usyk downstairs but didn’t keep going.

Garcia noted afterwards that they could have used a stricter camp where AJ followed instructions better.

AJ made a big mistake leaving Robert Mckracken