Comments Thread For: Vergil Ortiz, manager still want Errol Spence in all-Texas showdown

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  • champion4ever
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    #71
    Originally posted by Smash

    ah shucks! these are the things that make it all worthwhile

    but dont worry i will soon say something that will surely irritate the hell out of you
    I’m pretty sure you will!

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    • MulaKO
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      #72
      Originally posted by Oregonian
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      Ortiz is not signed up to fight anyone. But he has stated his dream fight is a shot past his prime Spence.
      In all honesty , that is a huge money fight in Texas
      Not sure about the dream but I know that money bag isn’t the same fighting Boots
      And let’s not forget , Boots has walked away from fighting Ortiz before when Turki offered to make the fight
      Is this returning the favour , don’t know if it is but let’s not forget that Boots already avoided Ortiz once

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      • ELPacman
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        #73
        If this were to come through immediately without Spence taking a tune-up fight, it's going to be brutal for him. I can almost see a 1st rd KO loss or 2nd. Virgil is fresh, hungry and has the kind of power you can't let him land on you often enough for long or it's over quickly. Spence is one of few guys I'd actually like to see a tune-up if he were to come back to gauge where he's at. His Crawford loss was dominant in that he was manhandled by Crawford. I'm sure it took a lot out of him and unless we know where he's at exactly, we don't know if he's really got much left to compete with Virgil right now.

        Though for business on the Goldenboy and Virgil side, it makes sense. A nice name opponent to get on the resume that will still draw big money in Texas and to further get Virgil's name out there to demand justifiable big bucks for that Boots fight to be made.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Coverdale

          They could have had a classic trilogy of fights between 2010 and 2015 and made even more money with fewer overall fights.
          True. I wanted it happen sooner as well, maybe around 2012. The only reason I'm happy it happened as late as it did was because of the payouts for both guys. I have to say this but Floyd deserves credit for ushering in those huge paydays prior to the Pac fight, it only ensured that both were compensated.

          Had they fought in 2010, I couldn't see both of them making more than a guarantee around $30M because of the paydays around that time. It was rare for guys to be guaranteed more than $25M aside from Holyfield who I believe was guaranteed $30M for one of the Tyson fights.

          To see Pac guaranteed damn $100M and Floyd bringing in 9 figures was well deserved! The guarantees for fighters today are significantly lower than this...most have to beg for more than 5-10 million, maybe it's due to other factors but I was happy to see two greats make that much money.

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            #75
            This would be bad for the sport of boxing if Ortiz does decide to fight Spence. Errol’ s body has been through enough trauma as it is.

            He was in a bad car accident which nearly cost him both his life and left eye by detaching its retina. It also left him partially blind with his vision being compromised as he can no longer see the punches coming anymore.

            Even though all of it is of his own undoing by drinking and driving. In any case, this fight will not end well for him. Chances are he won’t even make it out of the first round.

            He is an irreparably and permanently ruined fighter now who should never be allowed to compete inside of prizefighting ring again. It would be too risky and he just might get hurt.

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            • Oregonian
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              #76
              Originally posted by MulaKO

              In all honesty , that is a huge money fight in Texas
              Not sure about the dream but I know that money bag isn’t the same fighting Boots
              And let’s not forget , Boots has walked away from fighting Ortiz before when Turki offered to make the fight
              Is this returning the favour , don’t know if it is but let’s not forget that Boots already avoided Ortiz once
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              For boxers, I can't knock anyone going for the most money. If Ortiz does end fighting Spence, they are both even on the who-ducked-who accusations so there would be no need for anyone to blame or defend anyone if they don't fight after. I'm hearing one particular dumb dumb here move goalposts by saying Ortiz is the A side. There is no A side at this point. If anything, Boots should go after one of the belt holders while he's waiting out Ortiz.

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