Comments Thread For: Don?t punish Joseph Parker for losing ? in fact, reward him

[ggallin7]

I think the stoppage was not warranted, especially due to the level of the fight 'and the titles on the line'.

But nevertheless? Joseph Parker really should not have been in that much of a competitive fight with Fabio Wardley 'I stated before the fight? That Joseph Parker throughout his entire career has lost 95% of all of his biggest fights'.

Note: Joseph Parker lost vs Anthony Joshua in 2018, then disappeared from top level in the sport for half a decade 5 years 'he then lost vs Dillian Whyte, and although he did produce a commendable effort vs Joe Joyce. That was another pivotal fight, that could have sky rocketed his career which he lost brutally'.

Joseph Parker vs Fabio Wardley 'was the first real top level fight, in a very long time where? Joseph Parker had all the pressure on him. Many respected active, former fighters and boxing analyst were all expecting Parker to win'.

The reality of Joseph Parker's career? Go and check his resume 'he has never won a top level fight, were all the pressure has been on him. Parker has never turned up to the big dance, and took over the dance floor'.

Tyson Fury has many times, Anthony Joshua has many times, Deontay Wilder has many times and so has Oleksandr Uysk during his career 'that is why they are the premier heavyweight champions of this era, and Joseph Parker even after beating Wilder? Is not going to be rated anywhere near his level as fighter, currently right now as their careers and feats achieved are compared'.

Joseph Parker to his credit beat a miles outside of his peak Deontay Wilder, and then two long time non-factors in the heavyweight divisions in Zhilei Zhang and a grossly out of condition Martin Bakole. If you really analyse all of his recent wins and performances in detail? You would realize that they were all completely overrated'.

Fabio Wardley had in reality? Been beating and competing against the more in form fighters 'that were actually stepping into the ring to win. Frazier Clarke twice, and then Justis Huni. There is a definitive debate to be made, and evidence which does suggest that Wardley on pure form had been competing at higher level than Joseph Parker before their fight'.

I think Joseph Parker if he has the desire should continue to fight 'and he will most likely do his usual thing. Which is? Win a few solid level fights, where he is the underdog. And then people will try and make out that he is one of the top level fighters in the Heavyweight Divisions'.

But in my opinion? Whenever Joseph Parker in the future, fights again at World or Elite level 'if he ever gets that big ticket, to attend the big dance again. Maybe against Anthony Joshua in a rematch II. Make absolutely no doubt about it? Joseph Parker will be completely lasered out',

Because I don't think Joseph Parker has a great clutch game, when he is on the big stage 'and all the camera's and lights are on him? The man has never performed. I don't care what all the cronies in the sport say, that have appeared during the latter stages of this heavyweight era'.

To conclude: Joseph Parker is nowhere near the level of Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua, or Deontay Wilder at their peak or in solid form in the case of Fury and Joshua. He has never been a champion and defended his titles, in a big pressure environment. As I have stated many times before? Those three fighters are the three heavyweight Mountains of this era.

People can all check my posts in regards to Fabio Wardley vs Joseph Parker 'I was not really in any fighters corner. And I would have been very content if Parker won'.

But I could kind of sense that Joseph Parker may not be able to deal with this high pressure situation 'the tactics in training camp were clearly not optimal, 260 + pounds of un-functional mass was not great tactic. And he also fought not such a wise fight'.

In an ideal world? I would like to see an immediate rematch between Joseph Parker and Fabio Wardley II 'there is a actual theme and narrative now for the rematch. And I think Joseph Parker and his team should be primarily pursing that fight' etc.

nowhere the level of wilder and joshua? these 2 arent hall of fame boxers anyway,parker has a better resume then both of them

[ggallin7]

Sorry, but i have to disagree. Huni clearly outboxed White Colar for the whole fight, and was cruising to an easy victory before he lost his concentration and got clipped. Parker struggled half of the fight, and seemed puzzled at times. Also, the fact that he came in so overweight proves that he was already thinking past Wardley, because his strategy was to come in heavy against Usyk, and he was testing it out.

The ref did his job, Parker was overwelmed, wasn't throwing and Wardley has devastating power.

There are no lies here, and no conspiracy. Just a frustrated Parker fan.

yeh but wardley fought way way better against parker then he did against huni, wardley fought the best fight of his life to beat parker,and wardley fought a poor fight against huni yet still won

[pollywog]

but do you agree that huni wasnt given a chance to fight on when he got up, it looked like the ref decided the fight was over when huni hit the deck regardless how quick he got up and if he looked ok

Yep...i think i called that one a home cooked decision at the time too.

Huni was buzzed, the count was fast and he was up by 9 but the the ref gave Wardley the decision.

Fisheyes really wants to keep the title shots in house and U.K based.

[pollywog]

The ref did his job, Parker was overwelmed, wasn't throwing and Wardley has devastating power.

Parker was not overwhelmed, he threw back twice in that sequence and Wardleys devastating power had evaporated by the time the ref stepoed in.

The ref did a job alright. Just like how Huni was jobbed.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Parker - Hrgovic would be great. Or Huni.

[pollywog]

Also, the fact that he came in so overweight proves that he was already thinking past Wardley, because his strategy was to come in heavy against Usyk, and he was testing it out.

The ref did his job

Parker was not overweight and it proves nothing of what you assume.

The ref's job was to give Parker the count and assess from there, like the one Fury was given vs Usyk.

Not waive the fight off and gift an exhausted Wardley throwing pitty pats a crucial victory.

If there is any fighter that didn't need 'saving' by the ref in that instance its the proven Oilskin.

We can agree to disagree til the cows come home but it's in the books. Well played Wardley.

...and rematch Parker to prove beyond doubt Fabio can legitimately drop or knock the Mighty Oilskin out.

[kafkod]

Whatever reason Usyk gave up a belt is irrelevant. The fact is, he did and could easily do it again to then try to win it back and go 3 times undefeated, undisputed, grand unified.

That's GOAT legacy!

Parker, with his proven U.K popularity, in a rematch with new Great British hope Wardley could easily sell out Wembly! Especially if Fabio was newly minted champ with an email belt.

Wardley is now in U.K superstar status like AJ was when facing Parker. Never been dropped, never lost and with an equally as enchanting backstory to sell.

The Usyk fight for all the belts would still be there after a Fabio/Oilskin rematch. Both fights are massive money makers.

Parker v A.J, i believe?, was Joshuas biggest pay per view. Vs Parker, it would easily be Fabios now too, perhaps more so than vs Usyk given the nature and disputed outcome of what we just witnessed.

Its a guaranteed full on fight to the death pretty much. A known quantity as opposed to Fabio vs Usyk maybe in Poland to negate the homecooking and crowd favouritism in the U K.

The point is, Usyk holds all the cards and decides who or if he wants to fight Wardley, where and when. No one can force him. It's probably in his best interests to marinate and shopwear Wardley a little by giving up a strap in the meantime.

If Wardley is now as big a star as AJ, he doesn't need to fight Parker again to make big money. AJ didn't need to rematch Parker to make a fortune, why would Wardley, if he is now the new AJ?

Usyk doesn't need to give up his WBO belt to avoid Wardley. It would be an easy win for him. If Huni was able to frustrate Fabio for 9 rounds, and make him look like a raw novice, imagine what Usyk would do to him!

I don't want to disrespect Fabio, but Parker made him look better than he actually is by bulking up and trying to beat him at his own game. Imo, if Joe had come in at the same weight, and used the same tactics that he used against Wilder, he would have beaten Wardley. The extra weight gave Joe a bit more power, and maybe a bit better punch resistance, but it also took away his speed, mobility and stamina, which were the very things he needed to beat a determined puncher like Fabio.

[Tuavale]

I don’t think “boxing” has to do right by Parker. He’s not going to be banished from this loss. He’s already a big name with credentials. He’s very likely going to get one of these big fights because that’s his level & that’s what he wants. If he fights a true scrub in his next fight it won’t be because of the system. It would be his choice. But I’m thinking Parker doesn’t roll like that and will have good opponent in his next bout.

[STREET CLEANER]

Parker took a loss because the ref prematurely stopped the fight. The ending was still in question with Parker ahead and Fabio spending a lot of energy trying to KO him.

[daggum]

Parker was not overweight and it proves nothing of what you assume.

The ref's job was to give Parker the count and assess from there, like the one Fury was given vs Usyk.

Not waive the fight off and gift an exhausted Wardley throwing pitty pats a crucial victory.

If there is any fighter that didn't need 'saving' by the ref in that instance its the proven Oilskin.

We can agree to disagree til the cows come home but it's in the books. Well played Wardley.

...and rematch Parker to prove beyond doubt Fabio can legitimately drop or knock the Mighty Oilskin out.

there was no reason to even give parker a count, he simply wasnt in enough trouble to reasonably consider that. fury was literally falling into the ropes over and over completely out on his feet. parker was slipping and parrying most of the punches thrown at him. aka boxing. fury was falling. this same exact ref stopped the wardley-coffie fight the same exact way with coffie slipping and evading while wardley emptied the tank trying to get him out of there in futility. definitely should be investigated and imprisoned...for life. alright wardley just throw a bunch of punches and ill stop it regardless if they are landing and your opponent is barely hurt. ok got it!