Comments Thread For: Don?t punish Joseph Parker for losing ? in fact, reward him

[PRINCEKOOL]

This analysis is spot on! And if Parker can't clearly outbox White colar Wardley, he doesn't have the legitimacy to fight Usyk.

Cheers man, thanks. I see the cronies who gush and pine over Joseph Parker are very active on this thread 'apparently? Joseph Parker has a better resume than Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder'.

You have to wonder why people say such things? Whether people like them or not 'Joshua and Wilder are two out of the three Heavyweight Mountains of this era. Without them and their careers, this heavyweight era would be missing many of its most important, and pivotal battles. If this heavyweight era was made into a cinematic peace, Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder are the main characters. Joseph Parker in comparison has not been one of the main characters of this era, and those are the facts'.

Note: Joseph Parker is respected in the UK 'but let's not get carried away, he is not popular anywhere near to the level of Tyson Fury or Anthony Joshua. This is one of the reasons why? I would not be surprised if Parker struggles to get a rematch with Fabio Wardley II'.

Joseph Parker after he was beaten by Anthony Joshua in 2018 'disappeared from top level boxing for half a decade, and as a Champion? He was extremely underwhelming, all he achieved was two defenses against Razvan Cojanu and Hughie Fury. Two underwhelming defenses, especially against Hughie Fury a fight which many observers believed he lost'.

The stoppage was unjustified in my opinion vs Fabio Wardley, but? Joseph Parker self destructed in this fight. Once again at top level, when all the pressure was on him and everyone was expecting him to win? He lost. That has been the story of his entire career, and why he is not a Super Star Heavyweight fighter'.

To conclude: The best fighters in each boxing divisions not only have a high level a skill 'but the ability to perform when the pressure is on, when they attend the big dance. Joseph Parker has never been that level of fighter'.

I know this may disappoint and infuriate many people, but top level heavyweight fighters 'are not going to be calling for Parker. Joseph Parker after the lost against Fabio Wardley is in a position where he actively has to pursue fights'.

Because he is not Tyson Fury, or Anthony Joshua 'those fighters even after a lost, are still heavily pursued fighters. They are not sitting around waiting for the phone to call, because people call them. That is what happens when you have been one of the premier Heavyweight Champions of this era'.

My advice to Joseph Parker, his team and all of his passionate fans 'is that he at least attempts to get a immediate rematch with Fabio Wardley II. If that is not possible, get a solid win on his resume, and then take your chance again in a mega fight. Maybe against Anthony Joshua in a rematch, but he may have to be very quick and proactive with his moves because the heavyweight divisions is moving. And when Joshua returns, I don't think he is going to be standing still'.

And if that rematch happens, most likely in my opinion Joseph Parker will then be completely lasered out by Anthony Joshua etc.

[pollywog]

^^^Joshua coming back after sitting around on his arse for 2 years begging Fury for a fight is expected to beat Parker as possibly his next opponent...lol

Cheers for the laughs dude!

[pollywog]

If Wardley is now as big a star as AJ, he doesn't need to fight Parker again to make big money. AJ didn't need to rematch Parker to make a fortune, why would Wardley, if he is now the new AJ?

Usyk doesn't need to give up his WBO belt to avoid Wardley. It would be an easy win for him. If Huni was able to frustrate Fabio for 9 rounds, and make him look like a raw novice, imagine what Usyk would do to him!

Usyk doesnt need to fight anyone for big money or any money really! Neither does Parker, Fury, Joshua or even Dubois.

If Usyk wants to fight for legacy and be 3 times unified he can, just by emailing Wardley a belt.

Fabio can then punch himself silly for a disputed win in a title defense for big money, take a beating in the process just so Usyk can challenge him and supposedly win easily.

Easy big money all round!

Though I think when you get to a level of wealth from prize fighting, the fixation some fans have about making big money doesn't apply.

Fury trolling AJ and Fast Eddie for schitzengiggles in retirement is priceless as was Jake Paul's trip trapping over Hearn's bridge.

Way more entertaining than watching either of them actually fight AJ, even if they were paid big money.

[kafkod]

The ref's job was to give Parker the count and assess from there, like the one Fury was given vs Usyk.

there was no reason to even give parker a count, he simply wasnt in enough trouble to reasonably consider that. fury was literally falling into the ropes over and over completely out on his feet. parker was slipping and parrying most of the punches thrown at him. aka boxing. fury was falling. this same exact ref stopped the wardley-coffie fight the same exact way with coffie slipping and evading while wardley emptied the tank trying to get him out of there in futility. definitely should be investigated and imprisoned...for life. alright wardley just throw a bunch of punches and ill stop it regardless if they are landing and your opponent is barely hurt. ok got it!

Yeah, standing counts were abolished from pro boxing in the 1990s. Fury got a count because the rules say that if a fighter falls into the ropes after taking a punch, and would have gone down if the ropes hadn't held them up, that counts as a knock down. Fury fell into the ropes and was held up by them multiple times before the ref finally remembered the rules and called a knock down. But that never happened with Parker, so there was no reason to give him a count.

[pollywog]

Yeah, standing counts were abolished from pro boxing in the 1990s. Fury got a count because the rules say that if a fighter falls into the ropes after taking a punch, and would have gone down if the ropes hadn't held them up, that counts as a knock down. Fury fell into the ropes and was held up by them multiple times before the ref finally remembered the rules and called a knock down. But that never happened with Parker, so there was no reason to give him a count.

Yeah...my bad.

Still, a knockdown was never called for Parker and there is no guarantee he would have been dropped, so in that sense, the ref erred too much on the side of caution.

But the point i keep labouring is, Parker did not need 'saving' from whatever the ref thought might happen if Parker had been knocked down or out.

It wasnt Parker's first rodeo were he to hit the deck and neither was it the refs with calls made too early.

It was too big a fight and too big a call to make.

[kafkod]

If Usyk wants to fight for legacy and be 3 times unified he can, just by emailing Wardley a belt.

You cannot be serious

[pollywog]

You cannot be serious

If Usyk emails Wardley a belt and after a defense Wardley wins, surely the fight for reunification, undisputed would be the biggest money fight out there ?

In the meantime. Fabio gets another big money payout by rematching Parker at Wembley, which given the controversy and new Brit champ defending on homesoil, would sell out easily.

Wardley makes huge money twice, cos the pundits say hes got Oilskins number now, and aftet fighting Usyk retires afterwards, as either undisputed, undefeated with his faculties intact at an early age or a rich young man and former world heavyweight champ anyway.

What's not serious about that ?

[kafkod]

Yeah...my bad.

Still, a knockdown was never called for Parker and there is no guarantee he would have been dropped, so in that sense, the ref erred too much on the side of caution.

But the point i keep labouring is, Parker did not need 'saving' from whatever the ref thought might happen if Parker had been knocked down or out.

It wasnt Parker's first rodeo were he to hit the deck and neither was it the refs with calls made too early.

It was too big a fight and too big a call to make.

When I watched it live I thought it was another shitty Howard Foster stoppage. He's a terrible ref who panics when somebody gets hurt in a big fight, and either jumps in too early, like in the first Froch/Groves fight, or lets a horrible beating go on way too long, like in the first Warrington/Lara fight. But Parker and Andy Lee didn't complain about it, so maybe he made the right call this time.

[kafkod]

If Usyk emails Wardley a belt and after a defense Wardley wins, surely the fight for reunification, undisputed would be the biggest money fight out there ?

In the meantime. Fabio gets another big money payout by rematching Parker at Wembley, which given the controversy and new Brit champ defending on homesoil, would sell out easily.

Wardley makes huge money twice, cos the pundits say hes got Oilskins number now, and aftet fighting Usyk retires afterwards, as either undisputed, undefeated with his faculties intact at an early age or a rich young man and former world heavyweight champ anyway.

What's not serious about that ?

Usyk isn't going to give up a belt, just so he can try and win it back again. That would be a dumb thing to do, especially at his age. What if Warren decides to milk the WBO belt with some in-house defences for a while, and age Usyk out even more, before giving him a chance to win it back?

[pollywog]

Usyk isn't going to give up a belt, just so he can try and win it back again. That would be a dumb thing to do, especially at his age. What if Warren decides to milk the WBO belt with some in-house defences for a while, and age Usyk out even more, before giving him a chance to win it back?

We don't know what Usyk will do, but i thought you were just all about big money fights ?

Usyk chose to derail the Parker/Dubois fight by letting Warren know he wanted to fight Dubois. Not the winner of Parker Dubois after emailing Dubois a belt and laughing about it.

Nek minnit, Sniffles comes down with a case of Duck fever, Usyk splatters him and voila...2 time undisputed while Triple Knee makes bank.

He could easily do the same and let Wardley become email champ. Its not dumb. Its smart business.

Besides who exactly would Uncle Frank milk in-house fights for Wardley with ?

There's every chance Parker wrecked his punch resistance or he'd get outboxed.

Wardley needs to cash in and cash out now. Usyk could retire just cos and then just as easily unretire.

Parker rematch is the fight most would want to see id imagine, not Usyk/Fabio.