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  • dan_cov
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    #31
    Originally posted by LA_2_Vegas

    If those two are Youtubers, what is George Sosa who rocked Ennis?

    A bum who landed a shot on an off-balance, teenage Boots who was busy clowning around.

    This is how you know a fighter like Boots is special when he has nearing 40 fights and the most controversy they can point out is someone landing a shot as they was off-balance.

    Bud was hurt bad by tiny Gamboa, Canelo was hurt by Cotto's little brother lol, it doesn't really mean anything.

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    • dan_cov
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      #32
      My issue with Bakhram is he's not fought anybody either, his resumes even worse than Boots, yet nobody ever mentions this!
      Corrales and Barrera both already had fantastic careers and I assume was actually highly regarded P4P at the time.

      Not only does he have no resume, he is terribly flawed.

      What will happen is Boots will destroy him then fans/critics will backtrack. It will go from Bakhram being a threat, the boogeyman etc to what I have been saying and maybe even worse. As soon as Boots flattens him he'll be a bum whose only notable win was vs Tim Tyszu who is in all honesty is one of if not the worst world champion I've ever seen.
      They already did this with Romain Villa another limited, huge puncher who actually had a better resume than Bakhram, fans claimed he was a threat after he was coming off two big upset wins vs very highly touted, undefeated prospects, as soon as Boots obliterated him, that was that. Granted he did lose his next fight but he went from this supposed killer to a tomato can instantly.

      He has a title so Boots should go relieve him of it but I don't think it will do anything for him or his standing or turn critics into fans. They'll just say he was a bum and had no resume and has still only beat X amount of top 5/10 opponents. If he can not get Bud/Ortiz, personally I would love to see Boots active, fighting 3 maybe 4 times a year. Wallop Bakhram, Fundora and all of them, relieve them of their belts then Bud/Ortiz has to happen surely. I see no reason he should be fighting on average less than twice a year especially with competition level being so & so.

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      • dan_cov
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        #33
        There is a reason Canelo, Shakur, Floyd etc all praise him
        Real recognises real.

        They have all sparred him or grew up around him.

        The only guy to claim he's overrated was Shawn Porter who throws nothing but praise his way after sparring him;

         

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #34
          Originally posted by dan_cov
          My issue with Bakhram is he's not fought anybody either, his resumes even worse than Boots, yet nobody ever mentions this!
          Corrales and Barrera both already had fantastic careers and I assume was actually highly regarded P4P at the time.

          Not only does he have no resume, he is terribly flawed.

          What will happen is Boots will destroy him then fans/critics will backtrack. It will go from Bakhram being a threat, the boogeyman etc to what I have been saying and maybe even worse. As soon as Boots flattens him he'll be a bum whose only notable win was vs Tim Tyszu who is in all honesty is one of if not the worst world champion I've ever seen.
          They already did this with Romain Villa another limited, huge puncher who actually had a better resume than Bakhram, fans claimed he was a threat after he was coming off two big upset wins vs very highly touted, undefeated prospects, as soon as Boots obliterated him, that was that. Granted he did lose his next fight but he went from this supposed killer to a tomato can instantly.

          He has a title so Boots should go relieve him of it but I don't think it will do anything for him or his standing or turn critics into fans. They'll just say he was a bum and had no resume and has still only beat X amount of top 5/10 opponents. If he can not get Bud/Ortiz, personally I would love to see Boots active, fighting 3 maybe 4 times a year. Wallop Bakhram, Fundora and all of them, relieve them of their belts then Bud/Ortiz has to happen surely. I see no reason he should be fighting on average less than twice a year especially with competition level being so & so.
          Then match them up. That's boxing.

          Who gives a fuck what some fat losers say? Murtzaleiv is ranked #4 and just mollywhopped Tszyu who was #3 or something. He also has the IBF strap. Those are the facts.

          So make the fight.

          Boots has had his little tune up vs a joke fighter. If he's so good and taletned he shouldn't really need to, but cool, it's no biggie, I can understand that.

          Now, it's Top 5 fighters only. That's what he should be doing.

          Ortiz, Fundora, Madrimov, Murtazliev, Zayas,

          They're his only options, any one else isn't going to wash. He's 28 years old and now it's time to actually prove himself.

          If he fights 3 of those, and destroys/dominates all three. Then we've got an elite fighter on our hands.
          Last edited by IronDanHamza; 10-20-2025, 06:12 PM.

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          • LA_2_Vegas
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            #35
            Originally posted by dan_cov


            A bum who landed'a shot on an off-balance, teenage Boots who was busy clowning around.

            This is how you know a fighter like Boots is special when he has nearing 40 fights and the most controversy they can point out is someone landing a shot as they was off-balance.

            Bud was hurt bad by tiny Gamboa, Canelo was hurt by Cotto's little brother lol, it doesn't really mean anything.

            I mean, he's still fighting about the same level so even though it's been about 30 non-descript fights since, it doesn't feel that long ago to be making the point.

            I just brought it up to establish that Sosa is, in your words, a bum. Which I'd imagine is much lower than Murtazalliev who is a Youtuber? I really don't know - are you about to put them about the same and get crazy with it? If that's the case, they should seek it out right?



            Last edited by LA_2_Vegas; 10-20-2025, 06:18 PM.

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #36
              Originally posted by dan_cov
              There is a reason Canelo, Shakur, Floyd etc all praise him
              Real recognises real.

              They have all sparred him or grew up around him.

              The only guy to claim he's overrated was Shawn Porter who throws nothing but praise his way after sparring him;
              Sparring don't mean jack in the grand scheme of things. Loads of fighters are Muhammad Ali in sparring.

              There's no doubt Ennis has talent and skills but he NEEDS TO PROVE IT in the ring.

              There's no way around it.

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                #37
                Originally posted by dan_cov

                What will happen is Boots will destroy him then fans/critics will backtrack. It will go from Bakhram being a threat, the boogeyman etc to what I have been saying and maybe even worse. As soon as Boots flattens him he'll be a bum whose only notable win was vs Tim Tyszu who is in all honesty is one of if not the worst world champion I've ever seen..
                how many times have i heard this before, the main reason the russian is seen as a 'bogeyman' by some is that noone will fight him which creates that talk, boots can end that talk if he wants by taking him out & tim had some good wins and was in with some good guys so u put him down while raising boots up all the time who has declined his big fights so far, hard to figure out really

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by dan_cov
                  There is a reason Canelo, Shakur, Floyd etc all praise him
                  Real recognises real.

                  They have all sparred him or grew up around him.

                  The only guy to claim he's overrated was Shawn Porter who throws nothing but praise his way after sparring him;
                  boots looks yuge!

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                  • MulaKO
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by champion4ever
                    Boots has great potential. The kid could punch, has a good chin, he’s athletic, with a decent ring IQ and lots of physical ability.

                    However, it’s time for him to start taking some risks outside of the ring. If he does then yes; He could be a generational great and P4P fighter.
                    Risks outside the ring you say

                    Care to explain

                    I’d rather he take risks in the ring by fighting top tier fighters instead of the crap he’s been offering us

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                    • champion4ever
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MulaKO

                      Risks outside the ring you say

                      Care to explain

                      I’d rather he take risks in the ring by fighting top tier fighters instead of the crap he’s been offering us
                      We’re basically saying the same thing. Risks inside the ring is like throwing more punches, closing the distance and just plain fighting.

                      Taking chances outside of the ring means to find, negotiate and signing to fight the very best opposition and competition available.

                      However, so far Boots hasn’t shown the willingness to sign and fight the very best competition that is available. He did offer to challenge Brian Norman, Jr though before the latter priced himself out.

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