Is Boots to Crawford what Broner was to Mayweather?

[Spray_resistant]

Not really an apt comparison at all, Bud while massively talented is nowhere near the drawing superstar Floyd was and Broner was brought along much faster that his career was pretty much over by the time he was 28. As for Boots? We don't know how good he is but he has passed the eye test. Nothing comparable to Broner, he has been brought along slow and doesn't have a history of getting fat, literally flushing money down the toilet, and getting beaten to a pulp by a tough south american fighter.

[MalevolentBite]

Not really an apt comparison at all, Bud while massively talented is nowhere near the drawing superstar Floyd was and Broner was brought along much faster that his career was pretty much over by the time he was 28. As for Boots? We don't know how good he is but he has passed the eye test. Nothing comparable to Broner, he has been brought along slow and doesn't have a history of getting fat, literally flushing money down the toilet, and getting beaten to a pulp by a tough south american fighter.

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[MalevolentBite]

Your argument is Boots is being babied and protected and Broner wasn't, which isn't true. Broner was the epitome of both of those things, when he was #5 P4P for no reason.



All 3 of those; Spence, Porter, Thurman fought way better fighters than Broner. All 3 of those were the opposite of babied and protected. Unlike Broner who was.



He did take the same route as Tank. Infact, worse than Tank. That's the point.

He only started fighting top level opposition when his value drastically decreased.



Yeah AFTER his first loss. Before that he was heavily protected, thus the point and the reason your argument makes no sense.



I said I don't think you were watching boxing when Broner was undefeated and heavily protected and babied. It doesn't sound like you were. Were you?





By "most people" you mean like one person? I'm not sure you know what basic words mean.

How does Canelo losing to Crawford expose me? I didn't pick Canelo to win that fight. And even if I did how does that change the fact that that means absolutely nothing in regards to what would happen if a prime Canelo fought Toney?

You sound incredibly moronic. You might want to try again.

I get it. A panel of pro boxers and coaches said the same thing as me. You and cover just get on here pushing bs. Thats sad man.

Porters resume isnt all that. Plus Broner and porter shared the same ring. I clearly said Thurmans resume was good. Just that broner had more names on his that are more recognized able. You can easily say PBC was protecting Spence from Crawford.

By most people.... dude i literally @ you. I can go dig up the profiles that were clowning you. I am not because you are a narcissist.

You dont know sht. Thats why you would pick canelo to beat Toney. Canelo hasn't beaten anyone close to toney.

Paulie and Chris just smacked down your argument that broner wasnt babied. They are more knowledgeable than me and definitely you lol.

No need to go back and forth with you clown. Lol.

[MalevolentBite]

This guy keeps saying top 5. Like us fans control the corrupt boxing politics lol.

[MalevolentBite]

Your argument is Boots is being babied and protected and Broner wasn't, which isn't true. Broner was the epitome of both of those things, when he was #5 P4P for no reason.



All 3 of those; Spence, Porter, Thurman fought way better fighters than Broner. All 3 of those were the opposite of babied and protected. Unlike Broner who was.



He did take the same route as Tank. Infact, worse than Tank. That's the point.

He only started fighting top level opposition when his value drastically decreased.



Yeah AFTER his first loss. Before that he was heavily protected, thus the point and the reason your argument makes no sense.



I said I don't think you were watching boxing when Broner was undefeated and heavily protected and babied. It doesn't sound like you were. Were you?





By "most people" you mean like one person? I'm not sure you know what basic words mean.

How does Canelo losing to Crawford expose me? I didn't pick Canelo to win that fight. And even if I did how does that change the fact that that means absolutely nothing in regards to what would happen if a prime Canelo fought Toney?

You sound incredibly moronic. You might want to try again.

he was fighting bums up until DeMarco which was a solid win i also think he lost to Paulie.

I met Paulie at Foxwoods when GGG knocked out mcmackin. Paulie even said broner didn't have to take that fight and jump over 140 to challenge him at 147lb.

My argument from the beginning was his whole career. That was my stance. PBC and even broner could had taken easier fights post his first lost and still make the same amount of money but they didn't. Just like Paulie said PBC took a totally different stance with Tank but also Tanks mentally was totally different than Broner. Broner stepped up alot. Boots and Tank. Not so much.

I actually compare broner to Judah. Not saying broner talent wise was same but their careers kinda relate more.

I say this as a semi boots fan. I go to his fights live. But the guy doesnt want to challenge him self. We all known Tank is a fraud. I hope boots doesnt take thar route. I also dont want him to jump right in with killers either.

[IronDanHamza]

I get it. A panel of pro boxers and coaches said the same thing as me. You and cover just get on here pushing bs. Thats sad man.

What panel? What are you talking about?

Porters resume isnt all that. Plus Broner and porter shared the same ring. I clearly said Thurmans resume was good. Just that broner had more names on his that are more recognized able. You can easily say PBC was protecting Spence from Crawford.

Yeah it's not all that.

Still, Porter, Thurman and Spence have way better resume's and were way less protected than Broner at the peak of his hype, obviously.

By most people.... dude i literally @ you. I can go dig up the profiles that were clowning you. I am not because you are a narcissist.

Go on then, "dig them up" How many do you honestly think there were? Put a number on it.

You dont know sht. Thats why you would pick canelo to beat Toney. Canelo hasn't beaten anyone close to toney.

Well Canelo beat Golovkin who is definitely close to Toney but that's neither here nor there anyway.

Toney didn't beat many fighters, if any, that were close to Canelo. So what's your point?

Just because Crawford beat Canelo doesn't magically mean Toney would also beat Canelo. That's now how boxing works.

Paulie and Chris just smacked down your argument that broner wasnt babied. They are more knowledgeable than me and definitely you lol.

No need to go back and forth with you clown. Lol.

Pauli who? Malignaggi? You cannot be serious.

Pauli's ENTIRE argument for the whole build up for his fight with Broner was that Adrien Broner was a protected and babied "Al Haymon creation" that had fought noting but bums. Do you really need me to post youtube clips of that?

[IronDanHamza]

This guy keeps saying top 5. Like us fans control the corrupt boxing politics lol.

Right but the point that's eluding you here is he was massively overhyped and placed into the Top 5 P4P when he'd fought NO ONE.

Hence he was babied and protected, at that time.

I don't know where you're lost.

[IronDanHamza]

he was fighting bums up until DeMarco which was a solid win i also think he lost to Paulie.

Ok, fantastic.

I met Paulie at Foxwoods when GGG knocked out mcmackin. Paulie even said broner didn't have to take that fight and jump over 140 to challenge him at 147lb.

He fought Pauli to cherry pick an old faded name who had a belt. And it nearly backfired as he nearly lost.

My argument from the beginning was his whole career. That was my stance. PBC and even broner could had taken easier fights post his first lost and still make the same amount of money but they didn't. Just like Paulie said PBC took a totally different stance with Tank but also Tanks mentally was totally different than Broner. Broner stepped up alot. Boots and Tank. Not so much.

Broner didn't step up AT ALL until after he fought Maidana.

I don't know what you aren't getting.

I actually compare broner to Judah. Not saying broner talent wise was same but their careers kinda relate more.

I mean Judah stepped up way earlier but yeah their career's are kind of similar in the sense when lost start taking loss's and their value dropped they started fighting the bigger better names consistently.

[MalevolentBite]

What panel? What are you talking about?



Yeah it's not all that.

Still, Porter, Thurman and Spence have way better resume's and were way less protected than Broner at the peak of his hype, obviously.



Go on then, "dig them up" How many do you honestly think there were? Put a number on it.



Well Canelo beat Golovkin who is definitely close to Toney but that's neither here nor there anyway.

Toney didn't beat many fighters, if any, that were close to Canelo. So what's your point?

Just because Crawford beat Canelo doesn't magically mean Toney would also beat Canelo. That's now how boxing works.



Pauli who? Malignaggi? You cannot be serious.

Pauli's ENTIRE argument for the whole build up for his fight with Broner was that Adrien Broner was a protected and babied "Al Haymon creation" that had fought noting but bums. Do you really need me to post youtube clips of that?

I posted the youtube link witg paulie and the rest of the boxingscene panel talking about broner fighting tougher opponents than Tank. I will post it again.

I would say 4 or 5 people. You will find it on the canelo Crawford live card trend.

[IronDanHamza]

I posted the youtube link witg paulie and the rest of the boxingscene panel talking about broner fighting tougher opponents than Tank. I will post it again.

That's post Maidana he's talking about.

Before that, as Pauli said HIMSELF in the build up with his own fight with Broner; That he's a "Al Haymon creation" that fought nothing but bums and won a vacant belt off an unranked bum. He literally said that.

Because, pre loss, he was babied and HEAVILY protected. That's just a literal fact.

I would say 4 or 5 people. You will find it on the canelo Crawford live card trend.

Oh really

Go on then, "dig them up".