Is Boots to Crawford what Broner was to Mayweather?

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #1

    Is Boots to Crawford what Broner was to Mayweather?

    Not saying Boots gets exposed like Broner did, I do think he’s a talented fighter, as was Broner too- he just lacked discipline more than anything. Boots is a good fighter but he’s absolutely nowhere near Crawford’s skill level IMO. He certainly hasn’t proven to be anyhow.

    The comparisons to Crawford are very premature. Just because he replicates some of things Crawford does, doesn’t automatically make him the second coming. I remember back in 2012 and people were convinced AB was the next Mayweather because the style was comparable, the difference was Floyd was effective with that style against A class opponents whilst Broner was imitating that style against B/C/D class opponents. I see a similar comparison with Bud and Boots
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    I think Boots is probably better than Broner (even though Broner had WAY more hype)

    But Boots has beaten no one, his best win is Stanionis, is that any better than Broner’s only good win over DeMarco? If it is it’s not by much.

    Boots has to prove himself. We’ve no real clue how good (or bad) he is yet.

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    • elfag
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      Well there wasnt anyone left at 147 really besides crawford for boots to chase

      now at 154 there are a bunch of guys he needs to fight to start judging how good he is.

      Ortiz, Fondura, Tszyu, Madrimov ect


      When Broner stepped up against guys his size he failed miserably, his best win was what Paulie M?


      Most people suspect Boots is better than Broner was, but if he cleans out 154 then he will prove it


      Ennis though is already 28 and hasnt fought anyone good. Its now or never for him. Im tired of this new generation getting to 30 and not really fighting anybody just protecting an 0. Some of these guys like Andrande wait until mid 30s to finally step up the competition. what in the **** is going on

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        #4
        Boots doesn't even have the resume Broner had at 36 fights, to be honest.

        Broner vs world title winners at the 36 fight mark:
        W vs Daniel Ponce de Leon UD 10
        W vs Antonio DeMarco TKO 10
        W vs Gavin Rees TKO 5
        W vs Paulie Malinaggi SD 12
        L vs Marcos Maidana UD 12
        L vs Shawn Porter UD 12

        Boots vs world title winners at the 36 fight mark:
        W vs Sergey Lipinets KO 6
        W vs Eimontas Stanionis RTD 6

        It's just plain sad.

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          Originally posted by elfag
          Well there wasnt anyone left at 147 really besides crawford for boots to chase

          now at 154 there are a bunch of guys he needs to fight to start judging how good he is.

          Ortiz, Fondura, Tszyu, Madrimov ect


          When Broner stepped up against guys his size he failed miserably, his best win was what Paulie M?


          Most people suspect Boots is better than Broner was, but if he cleans out 154 then he will prove it


          Ennis though is already 28 and hasnt fought anyone good. Its now or never for him. Im tired of this new generation getting to 30 and not really fighting anybody just protecting an 0. Some of these guys like Andrande wait until mid 30s to finally step up the competition. what in the **** is going on
          Boots turned down multiple fights with Crawford and refused to enforce his mandatory shot against Spence.

          But even then, there were guys at 147 better than the ones Boots was fighting. Why was he fighting Chris van Heerden instead of chasing a name like Shawn Porter or Danny Garcia? Why not Kell Brook or Amir Khan instead of Armando Alvarez?

          Even some washed names would have built up his profile better. Ghost Guerrero, Berto, Devon Alexander, those names were still floating around on Jaron's rise up.

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          • MalevolentBite
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            #6
            Replace Boots with Tank. Boots and Tank got to where they are basically fighting nobodies. Broner actually put in alot of work and Broner was actually never babied like Tank and Boots. Broner went through a nice Gauntlet of names. Look at broners resume of names and look at Boots and Tank. Boots isn't that young.

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              #7
              Originally posted by famicommander
              Boots doesn't even have the resume Broner had at 36 fights, to be honest.

              Broner vs world title winners at the 36 fight mark:
              W vs Daniel Ponce de Leon UD 10
              W vs Antonio DeMarco TKO 10
              W vs Gavin Rees TKO 5
              W vs Paulie Malinaggi SD 12
              L vs Marcos Maidana UD 12
              L vs Shawn Porter UD 12

              Boots vs world title winners at the 36 fight mark:
              W vs Sergey Lipinets KO 6
              W vs Eimontas Stanionis RTD 6

              It's just plain sad.
              Thank you. He needs to replace broner with Tank. Boots and Tanks resume are trash. Tank never unified once. Boots only did it once and that was with an email belt. No shade.

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                #8
                Originally posted by MalevolentBite
                Replace Boots with Tank. Boots and Tank got to where they are basically fighting nobodies. Broner actually put in alot of work and Broner was actually never babied like Tank and Boots. Broner went through a nice Gauntlet of names. Look at broners resume of names and look at Boots and Tank. Boots isn't that young.
                Broner was the epitome of babied. He is the poster boy for being babied.

                He won a vacant title at 130 vs some guy called Hernandez or something who was unranked.

                Then at 135 he beat DeMarco which was a good win, his best win by far but it’s still DeMarco.

                Then he jumped up two weight classes to cherry pick a passed it Pauli because he saw it at as easy win and easy title to get vs a name. Just so happened that he nearly lost.

                These are the only two wins he had vs ranked opponents. I think Eloy Perez may have been #9 aswell possibly.

                That is not a “gauntlet”, it’s the opposite, he fought almost entirely unranked fighters up to that point.

                Then he fought Maidana, who was also considered a mismatch at the time (unbeknownst to me) and then after he got absolutely battered by the huge underdog he then had to fight top guys.

                But Pre Maidana, his resume was pathetic.

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                • famicommander
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MalevolentBite

                  Thank you. He needs to replace broner with Tank. Boots and Tanks resume are trash. Tank never unified once. Boots only did it once and that was with an email belt. No shade.
                  Tank's resume is good if you only look at the names. It's the context (most of them were super old and/or far outside their best weight) that makes Davis a joke.

                  Davis vs world title winners:
                  W vs Cristobal Cruz TKO 3 (super, super washed)
                  W vs Jose Pedraza TKO 7 (legitimately good win)
                  W vs Hugo Ruiz KO 1 (super bantamweight fighter)
                  W vs Yuriorkis Gamboa TKO 12 (5 years past prime)
                  W vs Leo Santa Cruz KO 6 (had no business at 130, was handed a vacant belt against an unranked guy)
                  W vs Mario Barrios TKO 11 (win aged okay, but Barrios was weight drained)
                  W vs Isaac Cruz UD 12 (I had this fight a draw)
                  W vs Rolando Romero TKO 6 (Rolly is trash)
                  W vs Hector Garcia RTD 9 (decent win but Garcia was from a division lower)
                  D vs Lamont Roach Jr. SD 12 (everyone knows Tank lost this fight)

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                  • Coverdale
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                    #10
                    The jury's out. He has the perfect division to prove how good he is if he's prepared to take the fights.

                    This level of overhyping is only possible with a US fighter. Give that same resume to someone from eastern Europe and no one would be saying the same things.

                    I've heard the "he passes the eye test" argument and, again, this is a luxury afforded only to US fighters.

                    Fundora - Boots is the fight to make next if the Thurman fight isn't rescheduled.

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