Is Boots to Crawford what Broner was to Mayweather?

[famicommander]

The jury's out. He has the perfect division to prove how good he is if he's prepared to take the fights.

This level of overhyping is only possible with a US fighter. Give that same resume to someone from eastern Europe and no one would be saying the same things.

I've heard the "he passes the eye test" argument and, again, this is a luxury afforded only to US fighters.

Fundora - Boots is the fight to make next if the Thurman fight isn't rescheduled.

You can't be serious. Every British heavyweight that makes it to 14-0 is treated like the next Lennox Lewis until they fight somebody with a pulse. This is not an exclusively American phenomenon by any stretch of the imagination.

[The Big Dunn]

No because Tank draws way more than Boots.

And because Boots looks like he can handle going up in weight.

I know people hate to give Broner any credit but he clearly messed his career up by not staying in shape and competing at 140lbs and below.

147 was just too much for him. Well it was the booze, drugs and whores along with the the bigger punchers lol.

[MalevolentBite]

Broner was the epitome of babied. He is the poster boy for being babied.

He won a vacant title at 130 vs some guy called Hernandez or something who was unranked.

Then at 135 he beat DeMarco which was a good win, his best win by far but it’s still DeMarco.

Then he jumped up two weight classes to cherry pick a passed it Pauli because he saw it at as easy win and easy title to get vs a name. Just so happened that he nearly lost.

These are the only two wins he had vs ranked opponents. I think Eloy Perez may have been #9 aswell possibly.

That is not a “gauntlet”, it’s the opposite, he fought almost entirely unranked fighters up to that point.

Then he fought Maidana, who was also considered a mismatch at the time (unbeknownst to me) and then after he got absolutely battered by the huge underdog he then had to fight top guys.

But Pre Maidana, his resume was pathetic.

His whole career is a Guantlet of good names. You just went over his light weight career. Paulie was still a two weight champion. Who did boots face that was a two weight champion? Tank is even worse.

Paulie, Marcos Maidana, John Molina Jr, Porter, Mikey Garcia, Vargas, Pacquiao, thats a Gauntlet of good names. He just didn't win. Thats not a babied resume. A baby resume is putting people on rehydration clause, never unifying belts and avoiding tough fights. Boots still got time but he has more in common with Tank. They are both protected.

An Guantlet is a Guantlet. He didn't have to win the Gauntlet lol. He was man enough to try to attempt it. Thats the difference from being babied but I forgot you are the canelo fan boy.

Idk y you brought up only broners career prior to his first lost. I am referring to his career. You be putting narratives into people's comments.

[MalevolentBite]

Tank's resume is good if you only look at the names. It's the context (most of them were super old and/or far outside their best weight) that makes Davis a joke.

Davis vs world title winners:
W vs Cristobal Cruz TKO 3 (super, super washed)
W vs Jose Pedraza TKO 7 (legitimately good win)
W vs Hugo Ruiz KO 1 (super bantamweight fighter)
W vs Yuriorkis Gamboa TKO 12 (5 years past prime)
W vs Leo Santa Cruz KO 6 (had no business at 130, was handed a vacant belt against an unranked guy)
W vs Mario Barrios TKO 11 (win aged okay, but Barrios was weight drained)
W vs Isaac Cruz UD 12 (I had this fight a draw)
W vs Rolando Romero TKO 6 (Rolly is trash)
W vs Hector Garcia RTD 9 (decent win but Garcia was from a division lower)
D vs Lamont Roach Jr. SD 12 (everyone knows Tank lost this fight)

I agree.

[MulaKO]

Not saying Boots gets exposed like Broner did, I do think he’s a talented fighter, as was Broner too- he just lacked discipline more than anything. Boots is a good fighter but he’s absolutely nowhere near Crawford’s skill level IMO. He certainly hasn’t proven to be anyhow.

The comparisons to Crawford are very premature. Just because he replicates some of things Crawford does, doesn’t automatically make him the second coming. I remember back in 2012 and people were convinced AB was the next Mayweather because the style was comparable, the difference was Floyd was effective with that style against A class opponents whilst Broner was imitating that style against B/C/D class opponents. I see a similar comparison with Bud and Boots

I have been saying this for years , especially when one of the posters here ( got banned and never returned , just can’t remember his name ) good poster and knowledgeable boxing geek , was claiming that Boots would be the next Bud and what not
He followed Boots from the amateurs and his claim was that Boots was the real deal
I can’t knock him for skills because it’s evident the mofo is talented as f@ckin but he’s proving my point that at 28 and 34/0 and still hasn’t faced the top tier of fighters
His fans are quick though to try to sell the staunch by saying that he’s fighting top tier
A guy with his talent is supposed to knock the guys out that he’s knocking but at a certain point he gotta step up
Four f@ckin exhibitions to start his bullchit run at 154 while screaming that fighters are avoiding him

S M F H

[SouthpawRight]

TBud was a tremendous eye test fighter for the longest time

so is Jaron

but going off of eye test Jaron is significantly better than Adrien was

Adrien let the fame go to his head and became a social media star first, boxer second

Jaron knows he's a fighter

[famicommander]

TBud was a tremendous eye test fighter for the longest time

so is Jaron

but going off of eye test Jaron is significantly better than Adrien was

Adrien let the fame go to his head and became a social media star first, boxer second

Jaron knows he's a fighter

The eye test only gets you so far, it's been 36 fights.

By the time Crawford had 36 fights he already had wins over:
Briedes Prescott
Andrey Klimov
Ricky Burns
Yuriorkis Gamboa
Ray Beltran
Thomas Dulorme
Dierry Jean
Hank Lundy
Viktor Postol
John Molina Jr
Felix Diaz
Julius Indongo
Jeff Horn
Jose Benavidez Jr
Amir Khan
Egidijus Kavaliauskas

Ennis at the same point:
Sergey Lipinets
Thomas Dulorme (1-3-1 in his last 5)
Custio Clayton
Karen Chukhadzhian twice
Roiman Villa
David Avanesyan
Eimontas Stanionis
Uisma Lima

There's no comparison. And Crawford's next 6 opponents were Kell Brook, Shawn Porter, David Avanesyan, Errol Spence Jr, Israil Madrimov, and Canelo Alvarez.

Do you think there's any chance Jaron's next 6 opponents are of similar overall quality?

[SouthpawRight]

The eye test only gets you so far, it's been 36 fights.

By the time Crawford had 36 fights he already had wins over:
Briedes Prescott
Andrey Klimov
Ricky Burns
Yuriorkis Gamboa
Ray Beltran
Thomas Dulorme
Dierry Jean
Hank Lundy
Viktor Postol
John Molina Jr
Felix Diaz
Julius Indongo
Jeff Horn
Jose Benavidez Jr
Amir Khan
Egidijus Kavaliauskas

Ennis at the same point:
Sergey Lipinets
Thomas Dulorme (1-3-1 in his last 5)
Custio Clayton
Karen Chukhadzhian twice
Roiman Villa
David Avanesyan
Eimontas Stanionis
Uisma Lima

There's no comparison. And Crawford's next 6 opponents were Kell Brook, Shawn Porter, David Avanesyan, Errol Spence Jr, Israil Madrimov, and Canelo Alvarez.

Do you think there's any chance Jaron's next 6 opponents are of similar overall quality?

good for Jaron box fans are fickle short memories

The fookery of Jaron opp selection shall be forgotten as long as Jaron turns Jaron-Vergil into TBud-Errol or Deluxe Edition Jaron-Stanionis

[MulaKO]

You can't be serious. Every British heavyweight that makes it to 14-0 is treated like the next Lennox Lewis until they fight somebody with a pulse. This is not an exclusively American phenomenon by any stretch of the imagination.

You tell Kuntdale to keep promoting Moses when he ran on f@ckin Sanchez , f@ckin Sanchez not to mention lying about Zhang just to avoid him
But Kuntdale would of been all over it if Moses was an American fighter the fughin racist **** head or wtv you wanna call it
Now here comes Zhang with show me the contract which he supposedly didn’t sign , the blatant lie is getting exposed not only in the ring but also out of it

And Kuntdale , I'm not an American so try again dumbass just in case you wanted that excuse as your scapegoat

Can't make this sh/t up same scenario as AJ , at least AJ had the balls to face Klitschko before getting exposed

Lmfao at the clown known as Kuntdale

[SouthpawRight]

You tell Kuntdale to keep promoting Moses when he ran on f@ckin Sanchez , f@ckin Sanchez not to mention lying about Zhang just to avoid him
But Kuntdale would of been all over it if Moses was an American fighter the fughin racist **** head or wtv you wanna call it
Now here comes Zhang with show me the contract which he supposedly didn’t sign , the blatant lie is getting exposed not only in the ring but also out of it

And Kuntdale , I'm not an American so try again dumbass just in case you wanted that excuse as your scapegoat

Can't make this sh/t up same scenario as AJ , at least AJ had the balls to face Klitschko before getting exposed

Lmfao at the clown known as Kuntdale

leave lady kuntdale alone

Lady kuntdale is mentally fragile and blocks all users with conflicting ideas