Comments Thread For: Tim Bradley: Jaron Ennis can make Vergil Ortiz fight look ?Easy as hell?

[MulaKO]

And what'd he do with that ibf ranking? Nothing.

enlighten me when Ortiz ducked Crawf. Never heard about, read about or saw anything about it. The Bootsy stuff has been documented. And Bootsys daddy is on film saying they turned Bud down.

Facts right here but even before that , Boots was to become his mando to Bud and then decided to take another route
I’d chop my hand off if that wasn’t Bozy telling his son to go after the rest because he wasn’t ready for Bud
I still believe that Bud beats him and that Boots because of his economical opponents , nice way of stating he hasn’t stepped up and none of his opponents has made him utilize a new tool , so to say , gaining very little from those easy fights , again, just Sayin’ cause no fight is an easy fight until the fight is done with

[champion4ever]

enlighten me when Ortiz ducked Crawf. Never heard about, read about or saw anything about it.

Also, there is no reason to make this stuff up. Remember that Vergil Ortiz had become Terence "Bud" Crawford's No.1 contender for the WBO's 147 world title long before Jaron "Boots" Ennis and yet he never fought Crawford. I just wonder what was the reason why?

[champion4ever]

Facts right here but even before that , Boots was to become his mando to Bud and then decided to take another route
I’d chop my hand off if that wasn’t Bozy telling his son to go after the rest because he wasn’t ready for Bud
I still believe that Bud beats him and that Boots because of his economical opponents , nice way of stating he hasn’t stepped up and none of his opponents has made him utilize a new tool , so to say , gaining very little from those easy fights , again, just Sayin’ cause no fight is an easy fight until the fight is done with

One can say the exact same thing about Vergil Ortiz. He was Crawford's No. 1 contender for years and was offered two opportunities to fight him and both times he and his team turned them down. Could it have been they thought that Vergil wasn't ready or too young and green at the time?

[champion4ever]

Facts right here but even before that , Boots was to become his mando to Bud and then decided to take another route
I’d chop my hand off if that wasn’t Bozy telling his son to go after the rest because he wasn’t ready for Bud
I still believe that Bud beats him and that Boots because of his economical opponents , nice way of stating he hasn’t stepped up and none of his opponents has made him utilize a new tool , so to say , gaining very little from those easy fights , again, just Sayin’ cause no fight is an easy fight until the fight is done with

Also, if you are going to criticize one for ducking. Then you are going to have to criticize them both because Ortiz did the very exact same thing as Jaron did by ducking Crawford. Which is the reason why he has never held a world championship by any of the major sanctioning bodies to this day. Instead of going after Crawford or Spence; He targeted Stanionis instead.

[MulaKO]

One can say the exact same thing about Vergil Ortiz. He was Crawford's No. 1 contender for years and was offered two opportunities to fight him and both times he and his team turned them down. Could it have been they thought that Vergil wasn't ready or too young and green at the time?

I recall the first time they refused the fight but the second time was caused from his disease
I remember clearly his trainer stating that they wanted to move up cause they didn’t know at the time what was going on with Virgil’s body and then they discovered that it was the rhabdomyolysis
I got nothing against what you are saying and it would make sense but Boots kept pushing the fact that he wanted the fight etc etc so that made up all the history between them and I still believe that Bud dissect’s him cause they’re fighting styles are so similar but Bud has got the edge imo

[MulaKO]

Also, if you are going to criticize one for ducking. Then you are going to have to criticize them both because Ortiz did the very exact same thing as Jaron did by ducking Crawford. Which is the reason why he has never held a world championship by any of the major sanctioning bodies to this day. Instead of going after Crawford or Spence; He targeted Stanionis instead.

Well like I said previously , I don’t view Ortiz as the upper echelon like Bud and Boots so that is something else that I take into consideration
Boots should win that fight with Ortiz, and it will also making him tenfolds better cause he’s gonna have to dig to win that fight
Unless Ortiz pulls a rabbit out of his ass and fights the perfect fight, my thinking is it’ll be competitive until the later rounds where Boots’s skills will take over but to get there he’s gonna have to dig deep

[champion4ever]

i think quite likely neither bud nor boots were that keen on the fight at all, bud unless he was getting paid very well for the boots fight i dont see him taking it, boots had plenty of time to mando himself to force the fight but did nothing and it looks like bud did try to get boots on blk where bud would have got a good fee but boots didnt jump on that one either, go talk to showtime they said & showtime said the offer was not that good and it went nowhere, not the actions of someone desperate for the bud fight to be honest, in fact the opposite

Bud won’t be fighting Boots no matter how much money Turki throws at him. Both he and his head trainer Brian McIntyre has already confirmed this.

Boots has a ten year age advantage over Crawford. In addition, he is naturally more physically gifted and athletic than Bud at this stage of his career.

Moreover, Crawford is 38 years old and is at the tail end of his career; Who is looking to exit the game with his legacy intact.

A victory over an unproven Ennis would add nothing to his legacy. While on the other hand, Jaron is 28 years old and has just begun to enter the game.

Despite having loads of potential and talent backing him.

[Smash]

Bud won’t be fighting Boots no matter how much money Turki throws at him. Both he and his head trainer Brian McIntyre has already confirmed this.

Boots has a ten year age advantage over Crawford. In addition, he is naturally more physically gifted and athletic than Bud at this stage of his career.

Moreover, Crawford is 38 years old and is at the tail end of his career; Who is looking to exit the game with his legacy intact.

A victory over an unproven Ennis would add nothing to his legacy. While on the other hand, Jaron is 28 years old and has just begun to enter the game.

Despite having loads of potential and talent backing him.

i hear what u are saying

maybe its just me but i would like to see a guy like bud or anyone in his position take on the 'new guy', i mean boots has been labelled a generational guy for many years & i think beating boots would actually add to buds legacy actually,he would get massive kudos from people like us on this website anyway u would think taking that fight and from people like bread and others who rate boots sky high, they dont rate others in that way so that auto makes boots some type of legacy fight in their eyes at least u would think, even if bud did want the fight im not so sure getting boots to sign up with would that easy either, he seems to have his plan clearly mapped out for himself, or else i could be completely wrong on all fronts

[BlackRobb]

^^^^^^^
This right here! No truer words could have been spoken. I couldn’t have it said better myself.

Boots is just too big, too strong and too durable for Ortiz at this 154 pound weight division.

Also, Judging by their last two performances; I cannot understand how anyone can believe otherwise.

Boots now needs to turn his attention away from Ortiz because he would never fight him now. He’s talking about moving to 160 soon.

He just needs to focus on the other titleholders and contenders at 154 like Bakhram Murtazaliev. Who have recently accepted Ennis’ call out.

Boots will never fight Murtazaliev. Eddie paid the IBF to rank Boots #6 instead of #1. Boots held the IBF belt at 147 for several years. When have you ever seen a champ moving up not be ranked #1 in that sanctioning body's rankings? The WBC has Boots ranked #2. He never held their belt at 147. It's clear that Bozy Ennis and Eddie don't want Boots in with Murtazaliev.

[BlackRobb]

Bud won’t be fighting Boots no matter how much money Turki throws at him. Both he and his head trainer Brian McIntyre has already confirmed this.

Boots has a ten year age advantage over Crawford. In addition, he is naturally more physically gifted and athletic than Bud at this stage of his career.

Moreover, Crawford is 38 years old and is at the tail end of his career; Who is looking to exit the game with his legacy intact.

A victory over an unproven Ennis would add nothing to his legacy. While on the other hand, Jaron is 28 years old and has just begun to enter the game.

Despite having loads of potential and talent backing him.

Even this version of Bud would destroy Boots. The gap in ring IQ is too wide. Also, Bud switches seamlessly, has tremendous reach for his height and can counter just about anything Boots tries. He'd likely stop Boots or win a clear UD. Bozy and Eddie will never pursue that fight, no matter how much yapping they do. Don't be fooled.