Is Canelo the worst cash-cow of all time?

[SouthpawRight]

Nothing stopping him from cleaning out Bridgerweight and becoming 3x undisputed like Bud

Imo, No. His claim to fame was losing to Floyd. Also GBP/Oscar had a lot do to with Canelo's success. GBP/Oscar did a good job at promoting Canelo and putting him in the right direction to demand high purses even after leaving GBP.

Canelo's high purse is because he copied Floyd's blueprint by fighting only during the 2 Mexican holiday, and since Canelo is Mexican, this plays a major role for him demanding a high purse because the Mexican fans will be tuning in. But overall, Canelo is a boring fighter. He's been a boring fighter since knocking Amir Khan out. Then his popularity increased again after knocking drunk Kovalev out. But aside from those 2 fights, the rest of his fights were a snooze fest to me.

Saul's rise to super stardom still puzzles me

this guy was manufactured for stardom from day 1 despite having no elite amateur background

Saul wasn't a handsome kid with social media a la Ryan Garcia

he had OKAY performances in his biggest fights

it took Floyd and manny years and they had to beat multiple hall of famers in the process

must be Saul's Irish passing appearance

It always happens when a fighter reaches the end of their career, but man the diminishing of Canelo seems to come about in a tidal wave.

I was critical of Canelo's resume throughout his career, not because it isn't good (it is pretty good) but because it isn't legendary as some have made it out to be. Mostly because virtually every future HOFer he beat, he beat as they were old and past their prime. That being written, he still has lots of good wins, was a very good fighter, and fun to watch especially in his SWW days. I think as he got older he fell in love too much with his chin and power. But 154 Canelo was slick, and a counterpuncher who sat right there in the pocket. To try and diminish him as boring is to be a prisoner of the moment and forget who he was when he was younger. Also, his first fight with GGG is imminently re-watchable, I think it shouldve been fight of the year, and probably wouldve been had Byrd's card not been so far out of whack.

As Southpaw rightly noted, they all can't be "super greats". Canelo is not an all time top 25 fighter. But he is all time top 100, and I may even go as high as all time top 60 range. Thats AMAZING. There was a time when he very well may have been the best P4P in the world, and most certainly was top 5 P4P for a good amount of time. We shouldn't let the fans of someone cause us to skew our view of them.

Saul 8-4 Old Miguel
Saul Come From Behind KO Old Kovalev
Saul 8-4 Old Golovkin

HOW and WHEN is also important alongside WHO!

This wasn't a dominant fighter unlike Floyd who gave out boxing lessons in his biggest fights nor manny who was destructing opps

coincidentally Saul is around his former mentor Oscar's tier of greatness

Saul has 3 fights remaining in his Riyadh contract

I believe he has one last great performance left in him would love to see Saul beat David and go out on a high note

Saul has done a lot for the sport by making almost every big fight he could have made. He deserves to go out on a high note

[DeeMoney]

Saul's rise to super stardom still puzzles me

this guy was manufactured for stardom from day 1 despite having no elite amateur background

Saul wasn't a handsome kid with social media a la Ryan Garcia

he had OKAY performances in his biggest fights

it took Floyd and manny years and they had to beat multiple hall of famers in the process

must be Saul's Irish passing appearance
Saul 8-4 Old Miguel
Saul Come From Behind KO Old Kovalev
Saul 8-4 Old Golovkin

HOW and WHEN is also important alongside WHO!

This wasn't a dominant fighter unlike Floyd who gave out boxing lessons in his biggest fights nor manny who was destructing opps

coincidentally Saul is around his former mentor Oscar's tier of greatness

Saul has 3 fights remaining in his Riyadh contract

I believe he has one last great performance left in him would love to see Saul beat David and go out on a high note

Saul has done a lot for the sport by making almost every big fight he could have made. He deserves to go out on a high note

I think a lot of his rise to stardom can be credited to GBP, like Oscar or not, he did a fabulous job of building this up. Also, Canelo came up just before the full fledged social media stardom was a big factor in selling a star, his pro career started before the smartphone came out and social media wasn't the same as it is now when he became a star.

Plus, he was a really good fighter, and I think he had a fun style on his way up. You add all that to the nationalism/tribalism of boxing and it paved the way for him to become what he was.

[daggum]

Saul's rise to super stardom still puzzles me

this guy was manufactured for stardom from day 1 despite having no elite amateur background

Saul wasn't a handsome kid with social media a la Ryan Garcia

he had OKAY performances in his biggest fights

it took Floyd and manny years and they had to beat multiple hall of famers in the process

must be Saul's Irish passing appearance
Saul 8-4 Old Miguel
Saul Come From Behind KO Old Kovalev
Saul 8-4 Old Golovkin

HOW and WHEN is also important alongside WHO!

This wasn't a dominant fighter unlike Floyd who gave out boxing lessons in his biggest fights nor manny who was destructing opps

coincidentally Saul is around his former mentor Oscar's tier of greatness

Saul has 3 fights remaining in his Riyadh contract

I believe he has one last great performance left in him would love to see Saul beat David and go out on a high note

Saul has done a lot for the sport by making almost every big fight he could have made. He deserves to go out on a high note

i dont know i have oscar higher, especially if you factor in oscars win over trinidad which is better than canelos over 36 year old ggg.

[Bennyleonard99]

Close but Floyd was the worst fraud in boxing history. The sport in America is in ruins today because of Floyd's cowardice.

[gauze]

if he didn't have red hair it would have been someone else

[LA_2_Vegas]

I'm not a big fan, but am thankful Canelo was ready to go at the right time - I can't imagine what it would have looked like if there was nobody after the wreckage Floyd left.

[The D3vil]

The answer is Tank

All of those other dudes (some of whom weren't "cash cows") are first-ballot Hall of Famers, including Canelo.

Tank is not a HOF unless something drastic happens.