Is Canelo the worst cash-cow of all time?

[TheProudLunatic]

They can't all be super greats

Saul is a shallow great

HWs should be excluded
They can thrive in a dead era and not be called on it.
The excuse is they can't move around to chase greatness

[SouthpawRight]

HWs should be excluded
They can thrive in a dead era and not be called on it.
The excuse is they can't move around to chase greatness

for this reason Naoya is ahead of Usyk in p4p rankings

[nghtmr111]

Id say yes. He was boring behind the scenes and during the build up and his fights have lo rewatch value. The fact he got paid all that money that he did to fight no hopers is freaking insane. I've been saying it for a while no way that Hearn, haymon, or turki got the money back that spent on him.

I can’t think of a single Canelo fight that I’d wanna rewatch lol

[HisExcellency]

HWs should be excluded
They can thrive in a dead era and not be called on it.
The excuse is they can't move around to chase greatness

Nothing stopping him from cleaning out Bridgerweight and becoming 3x undisputed like Bud

[TheProudLunatic]

Nothing stopping him from cleaning out Bridgerweight and becoming 3x undisputed like Bud

Bud is the best to have ever done it
(end sarcasm)

[QueensburyRules]

In terms of value for money, did Canelo exhibit things in the ring that justified the huge purses he earned?

Mike Tyson - hugely exciting to watch due to his sheer brutality & ability.
Holyfield - always demonstrated warrior spirit making his fights must watch events
Roy Jones Jr - unbelievable to watch and fought in an unprecedented way at the time
Lennox Lewis - tremendous power & athleticism and was able to neutralise most styles
Pacquiao - Phenomenal hand speed & ability to find angles. His fights were very entertaining
Mayweather - Boxing purists marvelled at the things he was able to do. Possibly the best defence of all time
Oscar De la Hoya - All action style, his fights were intense and fun to watch

Comparing Canelo to a few of the above mentioned cash-cows, you'd have to say what exactly did he deliver that warranted the huge sums?

At 154/155lbs he was able to look flashy against a few overmatched opponents like Josesito Lopez and Angulo but whenever he fought anyone decent in the higher weights he turned into a boring, low output counter puncher, with terrible stamina, who often got frustrated in fights. Yes he won fights but he wasn't exhibiting feats that were truly entertaining or mesmerizing to separate him from the rest. It's wild to think he picked up 100M for the way he fought against Scull, a fight which was realistically quite close.

- - So Canelo whooped U fanny and U still squallin'...

[QueensburyRules]

they tried to make guys like wilder and tank cash cows but i guess they flopped

- - Nobody who counts for anything in the US know who those two thugs are.

Craw started as a thug, but ended up boring as can be was lucky Arum stuck with him in spite of losing $$$ on him.

[NarcosMaidana]

Imo, No. His claim to fame was losing to Floyd. Also GBP/Oscar had a lot do to with Canelo's success. GBP/Oscar did a good job at promoting Canelo and putting him in the right direction to demand high purses even after leaving GBP.

Canelo's high purse is because he copied Floyd's blueprint by fighting only during the 2 Mexican holiday, and since Canelo is Mexican, this plays a major role for him demanding a high purse because the Mexican fans will be tuning in. But overall, Canelo is a boring fighter. He's been a boring fighter since knocking Amir Khan out. Then his popularity increased again after knocking drunk Kovalev out. But aside from those 2 fights, the rest of his fights were a snooze fest to me.

[Elastic Recoilz]

- - So Canelo whooped U fanny and U still squallin'...

what on Earth are you jabbering on about you bellend?

[DeeMoney]

It always happens when a fighter reaches the end of their career, but man the diminishing of Canelo seems to come about in a tidal wave.

I was critical of Canelo's resume throughout his career, not because it isn't good (it is pretty good) but because it isn't legendary as some have made it out to be. Mostly because virtually every future HOFer he beat, he beat as they were old and past their prime. That being written, he still has lots of good wins, was a very good fighter, and fun to watch especially in his SWW days. I think as he got older he fell in love too much with his chin and power. But 154 Canelo was slick, and a counterpuncher who sat right there in the pocket. To try and diminish him as boring is to be a prisoner of the moment and forget who he was when he was younger. Also, his first fight with GGG is imminently re-watchable, I think it shouldve been fight of the year, and probably wouldve been had Byrd's card not been so far out of whack.

As Southpaw rightly noted, they all can't be "super greats". Canelo is not an all time top 25 fighter. But he is all time top 100, and I may even go as high as all time top 60 range. Thats AMAZING. There was a time when he very well may have been the best P4P in the world, and most certainly was top 5 P4P for a good amount of time. We shouldn't let the fans of someone cause us to skew our view of them.