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  • IronDanHamza
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    #21
    Spray_resistant "Do you have the post link where I said that? No, it wouldn't be that difficult to take a dive like that, they were sparring partners too and Malik Scott also took a dive for Wilder so he has a history of this. Wilder pawing him isn't enough to register a ko and if it was Helenius wouldn't have gotten as far as he did in the biz.

    Let me just take a very wild guess and assume you've never boxed before in any capacity, have you? You actually think that it wouldn't be difficult to stage a KO where the guy is literally sparked out cold

    I'm going to take another wild guess and say you thought Jake Paul-Mike Tyson was staged too, right?

    How about the Earth, I bet flat, right?


    And no I don't have a link because that fight happened in 2013. But you were saying the same brain dead nonsense for that fight that you're saying for this one. Unless your brain is so crammed to capacity with similar crap that you've forgotten you deemed that fight staged also?

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    • pollywog
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      #22
      Originally posted by Spray_resistant
      ...there is no impact on that love tap this was 100% a dive.
      He prolly got paid more to lose, so chose to lose. Like when he rolled over for AJ too...

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      • Spray_resistant
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        #23
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        Spray_resistant "Do you have the post link where I said that? No, it wouldn't be that difficult to take a dive like that, they were sparring partners too and Malik Scott also took a dive for Wilder so he has a history of this. Wilder pawing him isn't enough to register a ko and if it was Helenius wouldn't have gotten as far as he did in the biz.

        Let me just take a very wild guess and assume you've never boxed before in any capacity, have you? You actually think that it wouldn't be difficult to stage a KO where the guy is literally sparked out cold

        I'm going to take another wild guess and say you thought Jake Paul-Mike Tyson was staged too, right?

        How about the Earth, I bet flat, right?


        And no I don't have a link because that fight happened in 2013. But you were saying the same brain dead nonsense for that fight that you're saying for this one. Unless your brain is so crammed to capacity with similar crap that you've forgotten you deemed that fight staged also?
        I actually have boxed before, so you're just making things up then sullying the name of a pillar of this online community I see. Yes, it would be easy, nothing happened in the rd and the first "punch" landed scored the "ko". Looked more like Paul took it easy on him if anything but most of his fights are staged.

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #24
          Originally posted by Spray_resistant

          I actually have boxed before
          Sure you have, buddy.

          I don't mean on the Playstation, I mean in real life.


          Originally posted by Spray_resistant
          so you're just making things up then sullying the name of a pillar of this online community I see.
          So you're now saying you didn't say Anderson Silva-Chris Weidman 1 was staged?

          Originally posted by Spray_resistant
          Yes, it would be easy, nothing happened in the rd and the first "punch" landed scored the "ko".
          Er, yeah. A monster puncher landed a punch that clearly removed Helenius from his consciousness.

          If you actually think it would "easy" to act out a KO where a the guy is literally out cold on the floor then that's the kind of stupidity I feel sorry for.

          To what end?

          Originally posted by Spray_resistant
          Looked more like Paul took it easy on him if anything but most of his fights are staged.
          See, case in point.

          You've watched too many films mate. Holywood isn't real. You can't do those things in real life scenarios like a prize fight without it looking absolutely ridiculous and fake.

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          • Spray_resistant
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            #25
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza

            Sure you have, buddy.

            I don't mean on the Playstation, I mean in real life.




            So you're now saying you didn't say Anderson Silva-Chris Weidman 1 was staged?



            Er, yeah. A monster puncher landed a punch that clearly removed Helenius from his consciousness.

            If you actually think it would "easy" to act out a KO where a the guy is literally out cold on the floor then that's the kind of stupidity I feel sorry for.

            To what end?



            See, case in point.

            You've watched too many films mate. Holywood isn't real. You can't do those things in real life scenarios like a prize fight without it looking absolutely ridiculous and fake.
            This isn't about me, go ask Wilder why he pays opponents to take clear as day dives and no I don't believe I made the post you're claiming I made 12 years ago but you have told me off, really showed me, hope you feel better after sitting on that for over a decade.

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #26
              Originally posted by Spray_resistant

              This isn't about me, go ask Wilder why he pays opponents to take clear as day dives and no I don't believe I made the post you're claiming I made 12 years ago but you have told me off, really showed me, hope you feel better after sitting on that for over a decade.
              I told you how retarded you were at the time, when you said Silva-Weidman was staged.

              Seems like 12 years on you're still as brain dead as you were back then.

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                #27
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza



                A monster puncher landed a punch that clearly removed Helenius from his consciousness.
                Is the monster punch in the room with us now?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Toffee

                  Is the monster punch in the room with us now?
                  Don't think so?

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                    #29
                    Good career for him. He was fun to watch.

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                    • landotter
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Grandma Lover

                      If he's a B level fighter then either the heavyweight division was more trash than I thought pr you need to work on your ranking
                      Or you are just a negative Nanny!! (I kid, I kid....)

                      Yes, it is relative to this generation. I do not compare generations. Senseless to. Only can be tested against what is there. So, yeah, in my own private world where my personal unicorns graze, there are elite, A level, B level, C level, than scrubs. You can argue Helenius can be C level, but to me those are winning record types who fight 90% of the time in a single region and get flattened in the few fights they step up in. I see B level as good fighters who have a resume that have recognizable names in it. They usually beat the no name boxers and lose to the name boxers.

                      So to me, B level for Helenius.

                      And yes... this generation of HW will be defined by a few top names and no one else will even be remembered. Not that deep. Bad generation.

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