Crawford should just fight Janibek at 160

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  • NarcosMaidana
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    #11
    Originally posted by famicommander

    Janibek, Adames, and Lara are the consensus top 3 middleweights and they all have at least one belt. Beating any of them in his first fight at 160 would be a nice accomplishment.
    But the comment I responded too says "TBud gets what should be an easy fight, after coming off a big one"

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    • famicommander
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      #12
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

      Because Crawford fights once a year at best and is not going to waste to his time fighting the likes of Lara or doing Middleweight tournaments. He's at the tail end of his career he's not going to take high risk low reward fights or just general low reward fights and definitely not multiple of those.

      He fought at SMW because of the preposterous money and massive fight with Canelo. He's not going to fight at 160 to fight unknown fighters for a fraction of that, he may pick up a belt there but he's not going to be undisputed there that's just not going to happen.
      It's not like the Madrimov fight was a huge money maker for him. He wanted to become a four weight world titlist so he did it. Janibek and Adames are both more well known than Madrimov and Lara is more well known than any of those three, despite his age.

      Crawford cares about his legacy. He talks about the lineal titles, he talks about the undisputed titles. If he becomes undisputed in a fourth weight class he's the only guy to ever do that, even going back to when there was only one title per division. If he becomes lineal in a fifth weight class, he's the only guy to do that in history unless you count Pac's disputed claim at 147.

      He's already an all time great, but with a 4th undisputed title, a 5th lineal crown, and a 6th divisional belt he has an argument to be THE all time great.

      You say he may pick up one belt there? If he does, what's one more fight? That's all it would take if Turki could grease the wheels enough to get the other two guys to unify on the undercard of Crawford's first fight at 160.

      What other fights would even be bigger for him at this point? He's not fighting Benavidez, Bivol, or Beterbiev obviously. The top contenders at 168 are all high risk, low reward (Mbilli, Martinez, Pacheco, Iglesias, Resendiz). He probably won't be able to make 154 again. So who does that leave who would be significantly more money than Lara or Adames or Janibek? Eubank Jr? MMA sideshow nonsense? Bring old man GGG out of retirement?
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      • SouthpawRight
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        #13
        Originally posted by NarcosMaidana
        Originally posted by NarcosMaidana

        Aka a cherry pick fight after beating a washed Canelo? I thought these type of fights were frowned upon on here?
        But the comment I responded too says "TBud gets what should be an easy fight, after coming off a big one"
        better yet he should follow manny’s example by doing 4 cherries in a row:

        Jessie-Jeff-Lucas-Adrien



        or how about this string:

        Joshua-Washed Antonio-Washed Shane-what was thought to be a washed Juan

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          #14
          Originally posted by famicommander

          It's not like the Madrimov fight was a huge money maker for him. He wanted to become a four weight world titlist so he did it. Janibek and Adames are both more well known than Madrimov and Lara is more well known than any of those three, despite his age.

          Crawford cares about his legacy. He talks about the lineal titles, he talks about the undisputed titles. If he becomes undisputed in a fourth weight class he's the only guy to ever do that, even going back to when there was only one title per division. If he becomes lineal in a fifth weight class, he's the only guy to do that in history unless you count Pac's disputed claim at 147.

          He's already an all time great, but with a 4th undisputed title, a 5th lineal crown, and a 6th divisional belt he has an argument to be THE all time great.

          You say he may pick up one belt there? If he does, what's one more fight? That's all it would take if Turki could grease the wheels enough to get the other two guys to unify on the undercard of Crawford's first fight at 160.

          What other fights would even be bigger for him at this point? He's not fighting Benavidez, Bivol, or Beterbiev obviously. The top contenders at 168 are all high risk, low reward (Mbilli, Martinez, Pacheco, Iglesias, Resendiz). He probably won't be able to make 154 again. So who does that leave who would be significantly more money than Lara or Adames or Janibek? Eubank Jr? MMA sideshow nonsense? Bring old man GGG out of retirement?
          He's not going to go undisputed at Middleweight. You can just forget about it from now it's never going to happen.

          Unless one guy has all the belts.

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            #15
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza

            He's not going to go undisputed at Middleweight. You can just forget about it from now it's never going to happen.

            Unless one guy has all the belts.
            Fantastic argument there.

            I think if he gets one belt it's just as likely he gets the rest. Adames and Janibek have been circling each other for years anyway. Get Turki's money behind that fight, put it on a Crawford vs Lara undercard, then winner vs winner, then retirement.

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              #16
              Originally posted by famicommander
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza

              Because Crawford fights once a year at best and is not going to waste to his time fighting the likes of Lara or doing Middleweight tournaments. He's at the tail end of his career he's not going to take high risk low reward fights or just general low reward fights and definitely not multiple of those.

              He fought at SMW because of the preposterous money and massive fight with Canelo. He's not going to fight at 160 to fight unknown fighters for a fraction of that, he may pick up a belt there but he's not going to be undisputed there that's just not going to happen.
              It's not like the Madrimov fight was a huge money maker for him. He wanted to become a four weight world titlist so he did it. Janibek and Adames are both more well known than Madrimov and Lara is more well known than any of those three, despite his age.

              Crawford cares about his legacy. He talks about the lineal titles, he talks about the undisputed titles. If he becomes undisputed in a fourth weight class he's the only guy to ever do that, even going back to when there was only one title per division. If he becomes lineal in a fifth weight class, he's the only guy to do that in history unless you count Pac's disputed claim at 147.

              He's already an all time great, but with a 4th undisputed title, a 5th lineal crown, and a 6th divisional belt he has an argument to be THE all time great.

              You say he may pick up one belt there? If he does, what's one more fight? That's all it would take if Turki could grease the wheels enough to get the other two guys to unify on the undercard of Crawford's first fight at 160.

              What other fights would even be bigger for him at this point? He's not fighting Benavidez, Bivol, or Beterbiev obviously. The top contenders at 168 are all high risk, low reward (Mbilli, Martinez, Pacheco, Iglesias, Resendiz). He probably won't be able to make 154 again. So who does that leave who would be significantly more money than Lara or Adames or Janibek? Eubank Jr? MMA sideshow nonsense? Bring old man GGG out of retirement?
              Erislandy is low risk, low reward

              42 years old having last fought in September 2024

              matchmakers have been giving their guy an easy for his first foray into a new division since the beginning of time

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              • NarcosMaidana
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                #17
                Originally posted by SouthpawRight
                better yet he should follow manny’s example by doing 4 cherries in a row:

                Jessie-Jeff-Lucas-Adrien



                or how about this string:

                Joshua-Washed Antonio-Washed Shane-what was thought to be a washed Juan

                Can't beat him, might as well join him. He followed in Pacquiao's footstep thinking he was going to be as successful . Joined Top Rank only for Bob Arum to say he's not a draw.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by NarcosMaidana

                  Can't beat him, might as well join him. He followed in Pacquiao's footstep thinking he was going to be as successful . Joined Top Rank only for Bob Arum to say he's not a draw.
                  Jessie-Jeff-Lucas-Adrien is worst than Jermell-Jaime-Edgar-William

                  hallelujah we have new better faces of boxing

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by famicommander

                    Fantastic argument there.

                    I think if he gets one belt it's just as likely he gets the rest. Adames and Janibek have been circling each other for years anyway. Get Turki's money behind that fight, put it on a Crawford vs Lara undercard, then winner vs winner, then retirement.
                    Yeah because it's just a bit tiresome, you're getting a hard on over the fantasy idea of Crawford being undisputed in another weight class.

                    Not sure if you live vicariously through these things, it's a bit weird to be honest, but I'm just trying to let you down slowly from now because it's not going to happen.

                    He fights once a year if that. He's probably got two fights left max and it ain't going to be doing a Middleweight tournament that no one cares about.

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                    • famicommander
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                      Yeah because it's just a bit tiresome, you're getting a hard on over the fantasy idea of Crawford being undisputed in another weight class.

                      Not sure if you live vicariously through these things, it's a bit weird to be honest, but I'm just trying to let you down slowly from now because it's not going to happen.

                      He fights once a year if that. He's probably got two fights left max and it ain't going to be doing a Middleweight tournament that no one cares about.
                      Again, what else is out there for him if not two fights against middleweight titlists? Who is going to make him a significantly higher amount of money than, say, Lara and then Janibek?

                      We know he's not going to 175.
                      168 is full of young bucks with no name value like Mbilli, Iglesias, Martinez.
                      He can't make 154.

                      So who are these fights going to be against? Canelo rematch? Eubank? Dig up one of the Charlos? Plant? Old man GGG?

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