Is Crawford right about Manny Pacquiao being overrated?

[joseph5620]

Spence only had two easy fights after his car crash

A lot of assumptions were made on how much he had left, he hasn't even fought again

Pac beat a lot of guys better than that spence

Danny Garcia and Ugas were not easy fights. Ugas had previously kicked Pacquiao's ass. If you think those were easy fights you know nothing about boxing. Also, Pacquiao beat nobody better than Spence. Let's see who if you think so.

[Ry92]

Who is canelo best actual win, not a toss up or a gift GGG or lara . That being said wasn't spence coming off a layoff, and life threatening car wreck with the injuries. And who was Spence best win Kell Brook come on now.

[TheProudLunatic]

Who is canelo best actual win, not a toss up or a gift GGG or lara . That being said wasn't spence coming off a layoff, and life threatening car wreck with the injuries. And who was Spence best win Kell Brook come on now.

The body of work AKA "resume" is what made Nelo the FOB.

When it comes to Nelo, haters hate the word "resume"

[HisExcellency]

That's rich considering Pacquiao beat Delahoya, Eric Morales and Margarito who were far closer to the end of their careers than either Spence or Canelo. He even fought Morales coming off a loss.They also were far less threatening as opponents than Spence, Canelo, and Shawn Porter. Fought Cotto with a catch weight of 145 lb. That in itself eliminates Cotto from being the same threat as Canelo, Spence, or Shawn Porter.

The "championship" Pacquiao won against Margarito was as bogus as the 150 lb catch weight. Margarito was never a top fighter or even a contender at 154. So don't even pretend that Pacquiao was any kind of champion at 154 lb.

So who exactly did Pacquiao beat that was better than Spence or Canelo? I'll wait.

Try again. You failed here.

Lmao...Crawford is a great fighter but probably the BEST cherry-picker in the business since Mayweather retired. For example, he beat Khan (coming off 4 losses & 3KO's), Porter (coming off 3 losses), Spence (coming off a life-changing car crash and years of partying) & Canelo (coming off 2 losses and multiple wars with GGG (3x), Bivol, Lara etc). In other words, he's beaten absolutely NOBODY of note in their PRIME.

In comparison, Pacquiao has defeated PRIME versions of Bradley (2x really should be 3x), Thurman, Cotto etc plus a lot of people thought he beat Barrios too despite being 46yo. Also, Pacquiao is an 8 division champion (vs. 5 for Crawford), 3 decade champion (vs. 2 for Crawford) and won world titles from Flyweight to Junior Middleweight (42lb jump) (vs. Lightweight to Super Middleweight for Crawford (33lb jump)). In other words, he's the much SUPERIOR fighter in ALL respects and will go down higher in the history books.

[SouthpawRight]

Lmao...Crawford is a great fighter but probably the BEST cherry-picker in the business

Vargas-Horn-Lucas-Adrien

4 easies in a row even losing to one of them

prior

Barrera rematch just lost to Juan

Miguel suspect decision after struggling against Joshua who should have been instaRematched

Joshua needed to rematch Miguel

margarito was a random at 154

Shane looked awful against Mora who isn't a good fighter

manny gets MOPPED by TBud in h2h

[djtmal]

Who

So you agree that Crawford isn't beating prime all time greats

[The Big Dunn]

Crawford would beat Manny pretty easily if they are in the same weight class.

Crawford had the skill level that Manny just doesn’t.

I would expect the same kind of 10-2 win Floyd had against Manny.

Manny is an ATG but he is below Floyd, Roy and Crawford and possibly Usyk.

[SouthpawRight]

So you agree that Crawford isn't beating prime all time greats

Crawford would beat Manny pretty easily if they are in the same weight class.

Crawford had the skill level that Manny just doesn’t.

I would expect the same kind of 10-2 win Floyd had against Manny.

Manny is an ATG but he is below Floyd, Roy and Crawford and possibly Usyk.

TBud's Uncle Pernell is also well ahead of manny in ability

top echelon Sugar Leonard Pernell Floyd TBud

manny still ranks pretty high for a fighter without a full skill stack

1) Sugar Robinson
2) Harry
3) Henry
4) Sam
5) Ezzard
6) Willie
7) Muhammad
8) Roberto
9) Joe
10) Sugar Leonard
11) Floyd
12) Benny
13) TBUD
14) Pernell
15) manny
16) Jimmy
17) Archie
18) Carlos
19) Marvin
20) Barney
21) Tony
22) Julio Cesar

[The Big Dunn]

TBud's Uncle Pernell is also well ahead of manny in ability

top echelon Sugar Leonard Pernell Floyd TBud

manny still ranks pretty high for a fighter without a full skill stack

1) Sugar Robinson
2) Harry
3) Henry
4) Sam
5) Ezzard
6) Willie
7) Muhammad
8) Roberto
9) Joe
10) Sugar Leonard
11) Floyd
12) Benny
13) TBUD
14) Pernell
15) manny
16) Jimmy
17) Archie
18) Carlos
19) Marvin
20) Barney
21) Tony
22) Julio Cesar

I would also agree that Pernell is ahead and would’ve beaten Manny.

[HisExcellency]

Vargas-Horn-Lucas-Adrien

4 easies in a row even losing to one of them

prior

Barrera rematch just lost to Juan

Miguel suspect decision after struggling against Joshua who should have been instaRematched

Joshua needed to rematch Miguel

margarito was a random at 154

Shane looked awful against Mora who isn't a good fighter

manny gets MOPPED by TBud in h2h

Lmao...Pacquiao was in his late 30's when he defeated both Vargas & Matthysse who were both world champions at the time. Re Horn, everybody knows that was the robbery of the century (besides Bradley 1) as according to CompuBox, Manny outlanded him 182-92 overall and in 11 of 12 rounds! Re Broner, at least he was a former 4 division world champion and over a DECADE younger than 40yo Pacquiao when he lost to him.

In comparison, Crawford padded his record against absolute NOBODY's who couldn't buy a world title between them such as Lithuanian Kava (who dropped him ) & Black Sheep Benavidez. He also had that embarrassing tune-up against Avanesyan before the Spence fight.