Is Crawford right about Manny Pacquiao being overrated?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Da Pimper
    Sugar Ray Brook
    Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
    • Dec 2015
    • 911
    • 201
    • 122
    • 7,803

    #1

    Is Crawford right about Manny Pacquiao being overrated?

    Crawford has said he doesn’t have Pacquiao in his list of greatest boxers. Says he’s overrated and insinuates he cheated. People say he’s hating but does he have a point?

    Main problems with Pacquiao’s career:
    1. Multiple catchweight fights
    2. Biggest name win (Oscar) was severely weight-drained
    3. Arguably lost to Marquez all 4 times and got 3 gifts
    4. Refused blood-testing demands during years of his prime
    5. Never undisputed
    6. Lost to a school teacher

    As for the 8-division thing:
    1. There was no title on the line vs Barrera. Barrera wasn’t lineal. Pac was awarded the Ring belt afterwards.
    2. Also no belt on the line vs Hatton at 140, it was for the Ring title. The Ring is just a magazine. And many say Hatton also wasn’t lineal because he moved up to 147 and lost.
    3. Fought Margarito for the 154 belt at 150 catchweight

    Again the Ring is a magazine they don’t own lineal and they are not an official sanctioning body.

    So more like 5 divisions.

    Is Crawford right about Pacquiao being overrated?
    Last edited by Da Pimper; 09-15-2025, 12:05 AM.
  • SouthpawRight
    The Soviet Step
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Jun 2024
    • 4125
    • 1,060
    • 1,083
    • 0

    #2
    manny’s claim to high greatness is the 8 division thing

    but being successful in multiple weights has been done before and better

    Harry and Sam were midgets at heavyweight beating up much bigger men

    Henry was a simultaneous 3 division champ at 126 147 160 all at the same time

    Ezzard went through weights too beating greater opponents than manny did

    anyways TBud mopping Saul last night eclipses manny-Miguel and manny-Margarito lol

    Comment

    • SouthpawRight
      The Soviet Step
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Jun 2024
      • 4125
      • 1,060
      • 1,083
      • 0

      #3
      Keep in mind TBud was the underdog last night

      manny was the favorite going into his fights with Miguel and margarito

      Comment

      • djtmal
        Undisputed Champion
        Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
        • Apr 2008
        • 12307
        • 1,208
        • 11
        • 39,097

        #4
        Whatever Crawford isn't beating prime all time great fighters

        Comment

        • SouthpawRight
          The Soviet Step
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Jun 2024
          • 4125
          • 1,060
          • 1,083
          • 0

          #5
          Originally posted by djtmal
          Whatever Crawford isn't beating prime all time great fighters
          Who is prime all time that manny beat

          manny liked facing big names coming off a suspect performance

          Comment

          • NarcosMaidana
            Contender
            • Sep 2018
            • 275
            • 28
            • 5
            • 7,384

            #6
            This is what Crawford also said about Manny.

            "Pacquiao earned the right to go out how he wants to go out, he done fought everybody there was to fight, when they were able to fight. He fought all the top names, eight-division champion. He accomplished everything there is to accomplish in this sport of boxing. So if he chose to go out with some fights of his choice, he deserves that. He earned that right".



            Last edited by NarcosMaidana; 09-14-2025, 02:07 PM.

            Comment

            • Floyd is TBE
              Undisputed Champion
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Nov 2016
              • 3234
              • 736
              • 1,097
              • 27,507

              #7
              They literally gave Pacquiao a fake belt for beating a mother****er Floyd just knocked out. And the Ring says they’re not political. I don’t think Pac is overrated other than the fact he’s not a real 8 division champion.

              Comment

              • hugh grant
                Undisputed Champion
                Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                • Apr 2006
                • 30285
                • 2,162
                • 856
                • 105,596

                #8
                Originally posted by SouthpawRight

                Who is prime all time that manny beat

                manny liked facing big names coming off a suspect performance
                Barrera was prime ATG. Morales weren't far off. JMM was prime ATG. Nelo is not coming off great wins or performances
                Last edited by hugh grant; 09-14-2025, 02:14 PM.

                Comment

                • ijudge
                  Contender
                  Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
                  • Jul 2021
                  • 204
                  • 166
                  • 190
                  • 0

                  #9

                  You can nitpick every fighter's resume

                  Aside from Canelo, what other hall of famers did Bud beat? Spence is not first ballot. Porter will be lucky if he gets in.

                  He beat Porter who was one foot already in retirement.
                  Spence after a car crash.
                  Canelo who got no knockouts in 5 years and already lost his aura after Bivol.


                  Comment

                  • satiev1
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 4657
                    • 573
                    • 0
                    • 78,492

                    #10
                    Originally posted by southpawright

                    who is prime all time that manny beat

                    manny liked facing big names coming off a suspect performance
                    lmao. Sounds like mayweather

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    TOP