Is Crawford right about Manny Pacquiao being overrated?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #71
    Originally posted by djtmal

    Floyd and Crawford wasn't beating all time great fighters in their prime but their smoke and mirrors game was good
    Go away dude.

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    • DeLorean
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      #72
      anybody's resume can be ripped to shreds if thats what you wanna do. manny didn't "refuse blood testing demands", he refused
      what floyd was ordering him to do. floyd is not boxing, who tf is he to dictate to anybody.

      and after floyd's supposed crusade against cheating, remember hes the only one who got caught with an illegal IV in his arm.
      also floyd always refused VADA, he would only work with shady USADA who was in his pockets.

      floyd is a shady mofo, who knows what else he was doing if he could pay off USADA to let him get that IV.



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      • QueensburyRules
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        #73
        Originally posted by champion4ever
        Manny Pacquiao isn’t overrated but I agree that his winning titles in eight different weight divisions are bullshit!

        Bud is probably still a little sore about Pac ducking him when they both fought at TopRank.

        He never got his big break or opportunity to fight him.
        - - Bud was never a factor for Manny who was signed to face Spence before Spence decided to take flying lessons with his Ferrari...

        Helps to have watched boxing. You should try it some day so you could learn something about boxing...

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          #74
          Sounds like bitterness because he never got that fight after re-signing with Arum, and never made the money Manny made. Manny's resume and legacy speaks for itself. He challenged himself across 8 weight classes, while being the smaller fighter in most of his biggest fights. I like Crawford, followed him since he was a lightweight and saw greatness in his skills. But the truth is, his resume isn't nearly as impressive as Manny's.

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            #75
            Originally posted by djtmal

            Against a fighter who is what 60+ fights in?
            No, against a fighter who fought like he was 50 years old

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              #76
              QueensberryRules, Bud was ready, willing and able to fight Pac as early as 2016. This was about 5 years prior to his proposed bout with Errol Spence in 2021. This was around the time of Crawford’s fight with Viktor Postol.

              However, Pac refused to fight him and chose to fight and lose to Jeff Horn instead. The same guy Bud knocked out. This is fact, proof, truth and history. If you don’t believe me then look it up!

              However, you won’t do that because the truth hurts.
              Last edited by champion4ever; 09-16-2025, 11:36 AM.

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                #77
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                QueensberryRules, Bud was ready, willing and able to fight Pac as early as 2016. This was about 5 years prior to his proposed bout with Errol Spence in 2021. This was around the time of Crawford’s fight with Viktor Postol.

                However, Pac refused to fight him and chose to fight and lose to Jeff Horn instead. The same guy Bud knocked out. This is fact, proof, truth and history. If you don’t believe me then look it up!

                However, you won’t do that because the truth hurts.
                Pepperidge Farm’s and champion4ever remembers.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by champion4ever
                  QueensberryRules, Bud was ready, willing and able to fight Pac as early as 2016. This was about 5 years prior to his proposed bout with Errol Spence in 2021. This was around the time of Crawford’s fight with Viktor Postol.

                  However, Pac refused to fight him and chose to fight and lose to Jeff Horn instead. The same guy Bud knocked out. This is fact, proof, truth and history. If you don’t believe me then look it up!

                  However, you won’t do that because the truth hurts.
                  About 4 months ago Crawford did Club Shay Shay with Shannon sharpe and talked about this among other things.

                  Check it out if you haven’t seen it.

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                    #79
                    No.

                    Pac started his career at 108lbs & fought up to 154, rarely fighting in home country

                    He destroyed Hall of Fame fighters. Not beat. Destroyed.

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                    • champion4ever
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                      - - Bud was never a factor for Manny who was signed to face Spence before Spence decided to take flying lessons with his Ferrari...

                      Helps to have watched boxing. You should try it some day so you could learn something about boxing...
                      Here's the deal. As much as anyone I love Manny Pacquiao. I am a fan of his just like I am fan of Bud Crawford's. I spoke the truth about why some boxing fans are just starting to notice him now and I responded. I didn't minced words.

                      I said that was partly due to his own undoing and his management team by keep extending his contract with Toprank long after knowing that he wasn't ever going to get the Pac fight and that their roster of welterweights were very sparse.

                      In other words Arum sold Bud a bill of goods. A pot of fool's gold shall we say just to keep him from signing with Al Haymon and the PBC.

                      Both Bob Arum and Freddie Roach even boasted how they were never going to allow Pac to fight in the same ring with Terence Crawford.

                      Toprank's constant resigning of Bud Crawford was not designed to help him but to hurt the PBC. They couldn't have given two shits about Bud's career.

                      Bud was ready, willing and able to fight Pac as early as 2016. This was about 5 years prior to his proposed bout with Errol Spence in 2021. This was around the time of Crawford’s fight with Viktor Postol.

                      However, Pac refused to fight him and chose to fight and lose to Jeff Horn instead. The same guy Bud knocked out. This is fact, proof, truth and history. If you don’t believe me then look it up!

                      However, you won’t do that because the truth hurts.

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