Canelo Alvarez Is On Steroids

[IronDanHamza]

Clen is not a steroid but can be used as a masking agent

Clenbuterol is absolutely NOT used as a masking agent That's a first. I've heard some funny stuff on here but that's up there as potentially the dumbest.

So you don't make this comical mistake again, Clenbuterol is a PED predominantly used for rapid weight/fat loss whilst also retaining (or sometimes even gaining) muscle mass.

Just so you know I'm specifically referring to steroids and the cycling of such. It is my opinion that he has been involved in this since 2017 when his physique went through its most dramatic change essentially taking him from light middle to super middle in a few months.

Ok fantastic. It's quite abundantly clear you've not got the first clue about "steroids" or the cycling or them.

As for making stoopid points... How the hell would you know if Canelo's strength has or hasn't changed? Have you ever shared a ring with him? Seriously give your head a shake you cretin!

Because we have eyes and can see his performance in the ring. Since being caught using PEDs (twice) there hasn't been any drastic difference in his performance. Which, points to potential (continuance) of PED use.

Yes, historically there have been short fighters campaigning at higher weights, but knowing the characters of Canelo and Eddie Reynoso (who are prepared to cheat if need be) and the fact that in recent times, within the last decade, no fighter of 5'7 has gone through the weights like Canelo... It's quite damning and really does tell it's own story.

Right, so it's a moronic point.

It's not damning at all. It's a non point. Being 5'7, or any one's height for that matter has NO bearing on whether they use PEDs or not. It's certainly not something that would point to it.

You are clueless on this topic and I would strongly suggest further revision before commenting on it again.

[Elastic Recoilz]

Clenbuterol is absolutely NOT used as a masking agent That's a first. I've heard some funny stuff on here but that's up there as potentially the dumbest.

So you don't make this comical mistake again, Clenbuterol is a PED predominantly used for rapid weight/fat loss whilst also retaining (or sometimes even gaining) muscle mass.




Ok fantastic. It's quite abundantly clear you've not got the first clue about "steroids" or the cycling or them.



Because we have eyes and can see his performance in the ring. Since being caught using PEDs (twice) there hasn't been any drastic difference in his performance. Which, points to potential (continuance) of PED use.



Right, so it's a moronic point.

It's not damning at all. It's a non point. Being 5'7, or any one's height for that matter has NO bearing on whether they use PEDs or not. It's certainly not something that would point to it.

You are clueless on this topic and I would strongly suggest further revision before commenting on it again.

You're an absolute self righteous helmet and its clear from the energy and tone of your posts that you have a strong desire to hang out the back of ginger...

Metabolites of clenbuterol can hide other ingested substances... You're probably some gimp who took steroids a handful of times, now has bawlz the size of peanuts and goes around preaching like he's an expert on them.

who is "we" when you say we have eyes? Trying to cover your ridiculous comment of saying Canelo's strength hasn't changed by including everybody else is low. You've never been in the ring with Canelo to feel said strength so again it's an utterly stoopid thing to say. Besides if you did have eyes you would've seen Canelo taking on low quality opposition which would explain the similar level of performance HOWEVER when he did step up the quality in opposition by facing Bivol, Canelo was gasping for air from round 9 onwards with zero pop on his shots... So... I'm really not sure what point it is you're trying to make there.

How many 5'7 guys have you seen move through the weights like Canelo? It's one thing to be a short fighter campaigning in a high weight class but it's an entirely different thing to be that short hopping through the higher weight classes. It is damning and definitely points to foul play. Canelo for a good while was insisting he wasn't a full sized middleweight - then within the space of three years fought at middle, super-middle and light heavy then attempted a fight at cruiserweight and even floated the idea of fighting Usyk at 201lbs for the heavyweight titles! That is absolutely the sign of a guy who has used, is using and will use steroids.

[IronDanHamza]

You're an absolute self righteous helmet and its clear from the energy and tone of your posts that you have a strong desire to hang out the back of ginger...

Not particularly a fan of Canelo.

Metabolites of clenbuterol can hide other ingested substances...

Buddy, Clenbuterol is absolutely not a masking agent. That's not a debatable topic that's an objective fact. Not, a masking agent. Far from one, in fact.

You're probably some gimp who took steroids a handful of times, now has bawlz the size of peanuts and goes around preaching like he's an expert on them.

haha , you could say a handful of times. Or, you could say for 30 years straight PED's is part and parcel for what I do for a living buddy and have been for the last 40 years. I have forgotten more about this topic than you will ever know.

You've no clue on this and it's very, very clear. So I'd just take a little step back if I were you.

who is "we" when you say we have eyes? Trying to cover your ridiculous comment of saying Canelo's strength hasn't changed by including everybody else is low. You've never been in the ring with Canelo to feel said strength so again it's an utterly stoopid thing to say. Besides if you did have eyes you would've seen Canelo taking on low quality opposition which would explain the similar level of performance HOWEVER when he did step up the quality in opposition by facing Bivol, Canelo was gasping for air from round 9 onwards with zero pop on his shots... So... I'm really not sure what point it is you're trying to make there.

We as in the people who turn on the TV and watch the fights he has.

I don't know how to make the point clearer really. He popped for PEDs (twice) when, 2017 was it I think? Since then his physical performance hasn't drastically regressed. Which points to potential continued PED use. It's very simple I'm not sure where you're struggling.

How many 5'7 guys have you seen move through the weights like Canelo? It's one thing to be a short fighter campaigning in a high weight class but it's an entirely different thing to be that short hopping through the higher weight classes. It is damning and definitely points to foul play. Canelo for a good while was insisting he wasn't a full sized middleweight - then within the space of three years fought at middle, super-middle and light heavy then attempted a fight at cruiserweight and even floated the idea of fighting Usyk at 201lbs for the heavyweight titles! That is absolutely the sign of a guy who has used, is using and will use steroids.

It is not damning. Not sure you know what the word "damning" means.

Your height has no correlation to potential PED use. Being 5'7 in height is as good as a pointless stat in regards to does he or does he not use PEDs.

[Elastic Recoilz]

Not particularly a fan of Canelo.



Buddy, Clenbuterol is absolutely not a masking agent. That's not a debatable topic that's an objective fact. Not, a masking agent. Far from one, in fact.





haha , you could say a handful of times. Or, you could say for 30 years straight PED's is part and parcel for what I do for a living buddy and have been for the last 40 years. I have forgotten more about this topic than you will ever know.

You've no clue on this and it's very, very clear. So I'd just take a little step back if I were you.



We as in the people who turn on the TV and watch the fights he has.

I don't know how to make the point clearer really. He popped for PEDs (twice) when, 2017 was it I think? Since then his physical performance hasn't drastically regressed. Which points to potential continued PED use. It's very simple I'm not sure where you're struggling.



It is not damning. Not sure you know what the word "damning" means.

Your height has no correlation to potential PED use. Being 5'7 in height is as good as a pointless stat in regards to does he or does he not use PEDs.

I'm not sure if you have any issues with comprehension, it's not the height alone which points to PED usage it's the height along with hopping through the higher weight classes and the confidence in doing so. If it was that common a thing we'd see many more smaller/shorter fighters doing the same as well. Certainly those few fighters who did move up multiple divisions at the lower weights like Inoue and Loma started showing vulnerabilities/ decreased punch resistance once reaching their highest division. Canelo hasn't showed any physical vulnerabilities yet apart from his usual slow feet. But then maybe this is why he selects a certain calibre of opponent instead of the Morrel's, the Benavidez' and Beterbiev's of the world

[IronDanHamza]

I'm not sure if you have any issues with comprehension, it's not the height alone which points to PED usage it's the height along with hopping through the higher weight classes and the confidence in doing so. If it was that common a thing we'd see many more smaller/shorter fighters doing the same as well. Certainly those few fighters who did move up multiple divisions at the lower weights like Inoue and Loma started showing vulnerabilities/ decreased punch resistance once reaching their highest division. Canelo hasn't showed any physical vulnerabilities yet apart from his usual slow feet. But then maybe this is why he selects a certain calibre of opponent instead of the Morrel's, the Benavidez' and Beterbiev's of the world

Son, I don't know how to make this clearer, height has no correlation with PED use. None. Zero.

It's not unique for a 5'7 boxer to be 170-175 lbs in the ring and compete at Super Middleweight. It doesn't point to PED use.

As previously stated, there are a number of legitimate reasons to point PED use at Canelo but his height is not one of them,

[Elastic Recoilz]

Son, I don't know how to make this clearer, height has no correlation with PED use. None. Zero.

It's not unique for a 5'7 boxer to be 170-175 lbs in the ring and compete at Super Middleweight. It doesn't point to PED use.

As previously stated, there are a number of legitimate reasons to point PED use at Canelo but his height is not one of them,

well as you say that there is not one single 5'6-5'8 fighter within the top 15 of any of the sanctioning bodies at Super Middleweight. Not to say a guy of those dimensions can't fight at the Super Middleweight limit but it certainly does not appear to be a common thing.

Being 5'7 at light middle before eventually progressing to light heavy is however unusual. In this situation you'd expect the 5'7 fighter to be within the Super Middleweight division before moving up not to be as low as 154lbs and at times possessing a relatively skinny physique.

[IronDanHamza]

well as you say that there is not one single 5'6-5'8 fighter within the top 15 of any of the sanctioning bodies at Super Middleweight. Not to say a guy of those dimensions can't fight at the Super Middleweight limit but it certainly does not appear to be a common thing.

Being 5'7 at light middle before eventually progressing to light heavy is however unusual. In this situation you'd expect the 5'7 fighter to be within the Super Middleweight division before moving up not to be as low as 154lbs and at times possessing a relatively skinny physique.

It doesn't matter if it's not common. Winning a world title is not common. Winning in two weight classes is extremely uncommon.

Something being uncommon doesn't equate to PED use. Not how it works.

Canelo being a 5'7 Super Middleweight Champion has zero bearing on PED use. It's not unique, far from it actually.

[Brother Mouzone]

1. yes canelo is been on steroids

2. all elite fighters are on steroids

3. guys in their late 30s on top of the p4p best in boxing and going up 3 weight classes, theyre on steroids too

4. physique isnt any big indicator if they are on gear or not. Fury and James Toney both were lard asses and confirmed on steroids. Its a PED its for performance not physique. In the 1990s we used to see some steroid physiques like post prison tyson, holyfield, tommy morrison ect, I think they used the same training and cycles bodybuilders did and then as trainers learned more and as testing ramped up it went more sports specific in the 2000s and even things like EPO for stamina. So today especially you cannot just look for a physique as the only indicator someone is on gear. I think everyone over 35 who is still elite is on PEDs

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[tomhawq]

Canelo Alvarez is on steroids.

Do you approve of the fight getting canceled? Yes or no. This is serious accusations you're doing here.

[Elastic Recoilz]

It doesn't matter if it's not common. Winning a world title is not common. Winning in two weight classes is extremely uncommon.

Something being uncommon doesn't equate to PED use. Not how it works.

Canelo being a 5'7 Super Middleweight Champion has zero bearing on PED use. It's not unique, far from it actually.

I definitely wouldn't go as far as to say winning a world title in two weight classes is extremely uncommon...

Sure, a fighter having uncommon attributes wouldn't usually equate to him using PEDs in the pursuit of his goals.. However we are talking Reynoso here; a guy who famously gave Canelo a pill to take in full view of officials after stepping off the scales and a trainer who is responsible for five of his fighters failing PED tests. Canelo is a guy who will say one thing only to later back track later on. with that in mind you simply can't give them the benefit of the doubt in regards to PED use.