Boxing is so dead

[Stuntman Mike]

What matches are you looking forward to?


The stars are basically becoming rarer. While boxing is not dead, it has been taken down a peg.

I knew he wouldn't reply to you. If he was that happy about the state of boxing he would have mentioned these phantom fights in his original post.Unless he's just a ultra casual Jake Paul fan.

[Joseph]

we’ve been hearing “boxing is dead” now for how many years?? and yet here we are lol

This. Boxing isn't dead; it's just geographically concentrated.

[drablj]

we’ve been hearing “boxing is dead” now for how many years?? and yet here we are lol

this is dead. this is what people then meant. barely anything relevant happens.

1. there are ~20 000 boxers in the world. there were that much in usa alone 35 years ago. the number of talented and/or hungry athletes which choose boxing is UNQUESTIONABLY lower. not my opinion. a fact. that's one of the foundations of any sport. lowered interest in doing some sport leads to lowered interest in watching that sport.

2. if senior citizens and some irrelevant (at boxing) guys can just waltz in and general public wants to watch their sparring sessions (they call it exhibitions) more, much more than when boxers who train for 10-15 years fight, it's a CLEAR sign that said people don't like or follow boxing. that shows us two things at least. they are in it for the names only and boxing is in a bad place.

3. old fans of anything die or lose interest over time. it's been like that forever. obviously every sport needs new fans. new fans are ALWAYS casuals. nobody is a boxing historian first and then he becomes a fan haha. you need motivation to continue doing something. casuals are into boxing for the stars at first. everybody's interest would dwindle when they see bad decisions on a regular basis, bad random matchmaking, almost zero stars (1), sparse schedule, boring big fights, almost zero big fights to look forward too. there aren't enough of us hardcore masochists and new casuals don't have enough motivation to learn and research more and become hardcore. less fans and that sport is dying. less followers and religion is dying. you get my point.

4. for some reason people love heavyweights. there is only ONE (soon to be zero) star below heavyweight - canelo. there aren't names for new casuals to flock to. it's the worst since 1900. and why is that? because of said bad matchmaking and inactivity. they can't create new big stars like this. and they can't keep new casual fans like this. basically promoters are only overhyping their boxers and hope that enough gullible people will buy mainly irrelevant fights. when one new fan watches some exhibition (paul, tyson, mayweather, whatever) or one regular card and likes it, he wants to know what's next. if there's nothing interesting (and zepeda - baranchyk fight of the decade isn't interesting for them at that point) for a 1, 2, 3 months, there's a big chance he'll forget about that next thing. there's no steady schedule in boxing. nba. tennis, football have matches monday to sunday. big time boxing is basically saturday only and even then fights are shorter than breaks. so barely anything happens even on a fight day. it's boring.

5. people on this forum use their time to discuss and read about boxing. when regular posters admit they only occasionally watch boxing, what are we expecting of new fans?

obviously boxing would be literally dead when only 1 or 0 people in the world trains it and they can't arrange a match. that would happen after the apocalypse. for the rest of us, this is dead/dying.

[AllHailKingFloyd]

It's not as good as when King Floyd was still fighting.

[brettWall]

It certainly has slowed down in the last couple of weeks.

[Spray_resistant]

This is going to happen when things get settled in alot of divisions, we just got a few undisputed title crownings, some divisions are cleaned out with a clear number 1. Isn't this what everyone wanted? Now we have to wait for someone with some star power to emerge.

[brettWall]

Has Top Rank found a new home yet?

Yeah, the sport of boxing has noticeably slowed down. Fans used to have big and medium events every week. We don't have any this week again, and weeks before the Crawford/Canelo fight.

[Cinci Champ]

Very few promoters are willing to put on a good fight unless Turki pays for it. PBC's Fundora-Thurman card is solid but they have so few dates they barely make a difference. Frank has Parker-Wardley but the rest of his schedule is crap. Matchroom's whole schedule is embarrassingly pathetic.

Look at this trash fight this weekend between a super middleweight and a welterweight. That's just as egregious as any Jake Paul fight.

This sport is so done.

what your not realizing is Turki owns everyone even pbc. Where do you think they are getting funding

[TMLT87]

1. there are ~20 000 boxers in the world. there were that much in usa alone 35 years ago.

Source? genuinely interested.

[drablj]

Source? genuinely interested.

i read it last year. i have since read over 1000 articles about everything and watched a couple hundred matches. i really don't remember but i didn't invent the number.