Boxing needs to be centralized like ufc

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No, i'm spewing revenue numbers and tv deals because they are pertinent to disproving your claim that the UFC is minor league, like how I spewed factual information regarding where cards are being held and who the champions are in response to your claim that the UFC is "American centered" and not global.

What you're doing here is emotionally responding and trying to attack the person instead of the facts because the facts are against you.



Again, you've goalpost shifted to a completely unrelated topic to the one you started off with. You claimed the UFC was American-centered, not global and minor league. Fighter pay has nothing to do with that.



You do realise theres been like 4-5 UFC PPVs in the last 10 years that outdrew any non gimmick boxing PPV thats happened over the same time frame right?



No, revenue figures, nationalities of champions, locations of cards etc etc are quite literally just stone cold facts. "da UFC is like McDonalds and boxing is like a fancy restaurant" on the other hand, is not.



Lol Fury boxed an MMA fighter making his debut last year while he was the literal HW champ of the world and no1 ranked. A Youtuber vs a near 60 year old Mike Tyson was the most watched boxing match of 2024, that same Youtuber vs a guy who is supposed to be a current p4p top 10 level talent may well end up being the most watched boxing match of 2025. The biggest boxing PPVs of the last 10 years are a retired boxer vs an MMA fighter and an exhibition between two guys in their 50s. 48 year old Carl Froch is probably about to come out of retirement to box an MMA fighter in what will be one of the biggest boxing matches of the year if it happens too. But yeah the UFC Is the WWE.



Are you seriously suggesting the UFC isnt making evenly matched fights between top ranked fighters on a much more consistent basis than boxing?



It didnt hit a nerve at all, i'm obviously a fan of both sports and think theres plenty of qualities boxing has over MMA, I even said on the previous page I feel boxing is overall in a slightly better place right now. I'm just enjoying making you try to explain your way out of your mindless takes to see what ******ed direction you'll take things next to keep up your narrative in the face of all the factual information you've been given. So go on, humour me, tell me who these "flavour of the month brawlers" are that the UFC apparently keeps hyping up?

You like Dana White’s unpaid intern. You keep throwing "facts" around like they’re holy scripture. UFC fighters are still underpaid, still begging for crossover fights with boxers because the money isn’t there, and you’re out here flexing like that’s a win. Boxing "gimmicks" still pull more eyeballs and cash than UFC’s biggest nights, and the fact you’re foaming at the mouth to defend it this hard just proves you’ve hitched your self-worth to a cage fight brand. Chill you sound like you want a W-2 from Dana more than an actual argument.

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UFC being around since 93 doesn’t suddenly erase the fact that boxing has been filling stadiums and cashing paydays way before Dana White even learned how to wear a suit.

And? whats your point? how does this relate to what he said? He mentioned that the UFC has been around since 1993 in response to the criticism that its a flash in the pan. His response killed that argument dead in its tracks.

You're also overlooking that a sport that "only" came around in the 90s managed to put itself on more or less even footing with boxing by the end of the 00s.

You keep throwing "facts" around like they’re holy scripture.

Well i'm sorry that I keep throwing around facts, I know its inconvenient for you.

Boxing "gimmicks" still pull more eyeballs and cash than UFC’s biggest nights

Why are you putting gimmicks in quotations? i'm talking about fights that literally dont involve actual active career boxers but instead Youtubers, MMA fighters and retired boxers in their 40s and 50s. That means that the drawing power/star power of those fights has nothing to do with interest in the actual current boxing scene.

I already told you theres something like 4-5 UFC fights over the last 10 years that did more PPV buys than any boxing match between actual real active boxers did. The biggest boxing PPV over that time frame was Canelo/GGG 1 which did 1.3 million buys, the biggest UFC PPV was Conor/Khabib a year later which did as many buys as Canelo/GGG 1+2 combined.

UFC fighters are still underpaid

The argument was never about fighter pay, I literally never once mentioned it. It was mainly about whether the UFC is international or not. You're all over the place. But since we keep coming back to this why are you so fixated on fighter pay? how does it effect you as the consumer? do you feel you're getting more big fights, more big cards and a generally better experience with boxing than the UFC because fatty Fury gets $50 million to arguably lose a boxing match to an 0-0 in boxing MMA fighter while the UFC guys who consistently defend against top challengers are making less than a tenth of that? Would you say the close to $50m Ngannou has been paid since he left the UFC has improved the entertainment value hes been giving?

and the fact you’re foaming at the mouth to defend it this hard just proves you’ve hitched your self-worth to a cage fight brand

If anyone is foaming at the mouth here its you, i'm just directly addressing your arguments and responding to them with factual information. And you're responding with "hur hur you wanna suck Danas ****" and "u mad"

STILL waiting on you to name these "flavour of the month brawlers" you claimed the UFC keeps hyping up.