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  • TMLT87
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    #11
    Originally posted by Century Tuna

    You really flexing event stats like you’re Dana White’s unpaid intern, huh? Lmao.
    No, i'm just giving you factual information that contradicts your narrative.

    Originally posted by Century Tuna
    Running cards in 12 countries doesn’t magically erase the fact that UFC fighters are still underpaid compared to boxers fighting in just one. Global exploitation is still exploitation,it just means Dana figured out how to squeeze wallets worldwide.
    You started off arguing about how the UFC is American centered now you're goalpost shifting to a completely unrelated topic to try and distract from being completely wrong.

    Originally posted by Century Tuna
    And thanks for the lecture on viewership, but maybe ask yourself why UFC fighters keep crossing over to BOXING for paydays. Fury–Ngannou, Mayweather–McGregor, Jake Paul clown shows, every time it’s boxing that sets the stage and UFC guys that chase the money. Minor leagues behavior, plain and simple.
    So what you're saying is the guys from the "minor league" are being paid tons of money to walk straight into the "major league" with 0-0 records in that sport and in many cases when past their prime, and are instantly being given PPV main events against major boxing names, with these fights often being among the most mainstream visible fights in boxing (The biggest boxing PPVs of the last 10 years are Floyd/Conor and 54 year old Tyson vs 51 year old RJJ lol) meanwhile the boxers that come to MMA are fighting in B league promotions, most recent case being Claressa Shields in PFL going life and death with chicks with 1-2 records.

    Originally posted by Century Tuna
    As for networks paying UFC more, yeah, because the company hogs all the revenue while fighters get scraps.
    Fighter pay relates to profit not revenue, the fact is the "minor league" UFC generates over a billion dollars in revenue per year, far more than any boxing promotion. Even in years where theres a relative lack of buzz and big stars its still raking in money because, like the WWE or traditional sports leagues like the NFL etc, the UFC brand itself has a degree of drawing power and as such can still generate fairly consistent interest even in quieter times. Hence why it just got signed to a new 7 year broadcast deal for $7.7bn while boxing promotions have been getting dropped from networks like a bad habit. For perspective, ESPN was paying Top Rank just $80m a year and didnt bother to renew.

    Originally posted by Century Tuna
    But keep worshipping broadcast contracts like you get a cut.
    and you keep worshipping insanely bloated fight purses like you get a cut.

    Originally posted by Century Tuna
    but it’s really just facts you don’t like: UFC is the flashy fast food joint of combat sports, cheap, fast, mass-produced. Boxing is the fine dining, historic, global, and still the highest-paying arena for fighters. Enjoy your McMMA, casual.
    I love how you preceded "UFC is the flashy fast food joint of combat sports, cheap, fast, mass-produced. Boxing is the fine dining," with "its really just facts you dont like" like you were about to hit me with some cold hard facts. For future reference "UFC is the flashy fast food joint of combat sports, cheap, fast, mass-produced. Boxing is the fine dining" is the absolute epitome of an opinion, not a fact. You said one factual thing, that being that it is indeed the highest paying combat sport...cool I guess?

    Anyway, you dont even watch MMA so how the **** would you be able to accurately assess its entertainment value compared to boxing? I mean I suppose for comedic value I could ask you to elaborate on what the **** you actually mean with your pretentious analogy, I forgot to ask you to name names regarding who these supposed "flavour of the month brawlers" the UFC was pushing too, but i'll let you off the hook because i'm sure you're tired of digging and we are both wasting our time at this point.

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    • Century Tuna
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      #12
      Originally posted by TMLT87

      No, i'm just giving you factual information that contradicts your narrative.



      You started off arguing about how the UFC is American centered now you're goalpost shifting to a completely unrelated topic to try and distract from being completely wrong.



      So what you're saying is the guys from the "minor league" are being paid tons of money to walk straight into the "major league" with 0-0 records in that sport and in many cases when past their prime, and are instantly being given PPV main events against major boxing names, with these fights often being among the most mainstream visible fights in boxing (The biggest boxing PPVs of the last 10 years are Floyd/Conor and 54 year old Tyson vs 51 year old RJJ lol) meanwhile the boxers that come to MMA are fighting in B league promotions, most recent case being Claressa Shields in PFL going life and death with chicks with 1-2 records.



      Fighter pay relates to profit not revenue, the fact is the "minor league" UFC generates over a billion dollars in revenue per year, far more than any boxing promotion. Even in years where theres a relative lack of buzz and big stars its still raking in money because, like the WWE or traditional sports leagues like the NFL etc, the UFC brand itself has a degree of drawing power and as such can still generate fairly consistent interest even in quieter times. Hence why it just got signed to a new 7 year broadcast deal for $7.7bn while boxing promotions have been getting dropped from networks like a bad habit. For perspective, ESPN was paying Top Rank just $80m a year and didnt bother to renew.



      and you keep worshipping insanely bloated fight purses like you get a cut.



      I love how you preceded "UFC is the flashy fast food joint of combat sports, cheap, fast, mass-produced. Boxing is the fine dining," with "its really just facts you dont like" like you were about to hit me with some cold hard facts. For future reference "UFC is the flashy fast food joint of combat sports, cheap, fast, mass-produced. Boxing is the fine dining" is the absolute epitome of an opinion, not a fact. You said one factual thing, that being that it is indeed the highest paying combat sport...cool I guess?

      Anyway, you dont even watch MMA so how the **** would you be able to accurately assess its entertainment value compared to boxing? I mean I suppose for comedic value I could ask you to elaborate on what the **** you actually mean with your pretentious analogy, I forgot to ask you to name names regarding who these supposed "flavour of the month brawlers" the UFC was pushing too, but i'll let you off the hook because i'm sure you're tired of digging and we are both wasting our time at this point.
      Relax tiger, you just wrote a whole dissertation defending Dana White like he’s your sugar daddy. You keep spewing revenue numbers and TV deals like you’re on the UFC payroll, but guess what? None of that makes fighters rich—it just makes the company fat. That’s why every big UFC name eventually crawls into boxing for real money. Keep coping with your billion-dollar "brand power" while fighters are begging for healthcare.

      And LOL at acting like McGregor–Floyd being a mega event somehow proves UFC is "major league" No, that just proves boxing is the real main stage. Your stars need boxing to get paid; boxing stars don’t need UFC for anything. That’s literally textbook minor league behavior.

      As for your FACTS half your rant is just corporate cheerleading. UFC is WWE with real punches.. overhyped, overcontrolled, and underpaying. You brag about "consistency" YEAH consistently underdelivering on pay and matchmaking.

      And don’t worry about my analogy, it clearly hit a nerve since you spent your time crying about it. Flashy fast food is exactly what UFC is, a quick hype, cheap ingredients, bad for the fighters but addictive to casuals like you. Boxing is the fine dining, takes time, costs more, and actually rewards the people making it happen.

      You don’t sound like an MMA fan, you sound like an unpaid UFC intern trying to convince the internet that slave wages are a good thing. Keep running PR for Dana, maybe he’ll give you a free Fight Pass subscription for your loyalty.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Century Tuna

        Relax tiger, you just wrote a whole dissertation defending Dana White like he’s your sugar daddy. You keep spewing revenue numbers and TV deals like you’re on the UFC payroll,
        No, i'm spewing revenue numbers and tv deals because they are pertinent to disproving your claim that the UFC is minor league, like how I spewed factual information regarding where cards are being held and who the champions are in response to your claim that the UFC is "American centered" and not global.

        What you're doing here is emotionally responding and trying to attack the person instead of the facts because the facts are against you.

        Originally posted by Century Tuna
        but guess what? None of that makes fighters rich—it just makes the company fat. That’s why every big UFC name eventually crawls into boxing for real money. Keep coping with your billion-dollar "brand power" while fighters are begging for healthcare.
        Again, you've goalpost shifted to a completely unrelated topic to the one you started off with. You claimed the UFC was American-centered, not global and minor league. Fighter pay has nothing to do with that.

        Originally posted by Century Tuna
        And LOL at acting like McGregor–Floyd being a mega event somehow proves UFC is "major league" No, that just proves boxing is the real main stage.
        You do realise theres been like 4-5 UFC PPVs in the last 10 years that outdrew any non gimmick boxing PPV thats happened over the same time frame right?

        Originally posted by Century Tuna
        As for your FACTS half your rant is just corporate cheerleading.
        No, revenue figures, nationalities of champions, locations of cards etc etc are quite literally just stone cold facts. "da UFC is like McDonalds and boxing is like a fancy restaurant" on the other hand, is not.

        Originally posted by Century Tuna
        UFC is WWE with real punches.
        Lol Fury boxed an MMA fighter making his debut last year while he was the literal HW champ of the world and no1 ranked. A Youtuber vs a near 60 year old Mike Tyson was the most watched boxing match of 2024, that same Youtuber vs a guy who is supposed to be a current p4p top 10 level talent may well end up being the most watched boxing match of 2025. The biggest boxing PPVs of the last 10 years are a retired boxer vs an MMA fighter and an exhibition between two guys in their 50s. 48 year old Carl Froch is probably about to come out of retirement to box an MMA fighter in what will be one of the biggest boxing matches of the year if it happens too. But yeah the UFC Is the WWE.

        Originally posted by Century Tuna
        YEAH consistently underdelivering on pay and matchmaking.
        Are you seriously suggesting the UFC isnt making evenly matched fights between top ranked fighters on a much more consistent basis than boxing?

        Originally posted by Century Tuna
        And don’t worry about my analogy, it clearly hit a nerve since you spent your time crying about it. Flashy fast food is exactly what UFC is, a quick hype, cheap ingredients, bad for the fighters but addictive to casuals like you. Boxing is the fine dining, takes time, costs more, and actually rewards the people making it happen.

        You don’t sound like an MMA fan, you sound like an unpaid UFC intern trying to convince the internet that slave wages are a good thing. Keep running PR for Dana, maybe he’ll give you a free Fight Pass subscription for your loyalty.
        It didnt hit a nerve at all, i'm obviously a fan of both sports and think theres plenty of qualities boxing has over MMA, I even said on the previous page I feel boxing is overall in a slightly better place right now. I'm just enjoying making you try to explain your way out of your mindless takes to see what ******ed direction you'll take things next to keep up your narrative in the face of all the factual information you've been given. So go on, humour me, tell me who these "flavour of the month brawlers" are that the UFC apparently keeps hyping up?

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