Usyk went life and death with Benidorm Pudding Fury- Itauma can't be written off

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  • hugh grant
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    #31
    Did someone say itauma got no chance against usyk, I've never heard that befire.
    I only hear itauma will give himself better chance if he gets a 12 rounder under belt first, and that usyk won't immediately get credit for win. Usyk might have to wait for itauma to be champ for next 10 years, before his win over itauma to look better. But even then some will say usyk best a green itauma?
    Itauma will be underdog 35% to 40% chance to win, but he's behind queue with kabayel and parker. Flip next for itauma, or ddd
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      #32
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      Did someone say itauma got no chance against usyk, I've never heard that befire.
      I only hear itauma will give himself better chance if he gets a 12 rounder under belt first, and that usyk won't immediately get credit for win. Usyk might have to wait for itauma to be champ for next 10 years, before his win over itauma to look better. But even then some will say usyk best a green itauma?
      Itauma will be underdog 35% to 40% chance to win, but he's behind queue with kabayel and parker. Flip next for itauma, or ddd
      That is a very good poiint. If Itauma can beat DDD, Hrgovic, Kabayel, somebody like that, than the win over him brings something to Usyk`s legacy.

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        #33
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
        I have a big respect for Parker, but I don˙t believe for a second of my life he has anything for usyk. usyk most likely dominates him.,
        Wilder and Whyte made Fury look better than he is.

        Wallin and Ngannou made him look ordinary and his big claim to fame was bamboozling Klitschko with a herky jerky exhibition of clownsmanship and pitty patting.

        He was easy pickings for Usyk, as was Joshua and Dubois. Parker is better than all 3 of them.

        Parker made Wilder look pedestrian, negated Zhangs much vaunted power and obliterated a Bakole, who even if he'd had a full camp would have got laid out.

        Zhang would have given Fury fits and Bakole would have caught him with something to put Fury on his bike.

        Team Parker is gonna give Usyk a hard night at the office and give a much better showing than Fury, Joshua and Dubois!

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          #34
          Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

          That is a very good poiint. If Itauma can beat DDD, Hrgovic, Kabayel, somebody like that, than the win over him brings something to Usyk`s legacy.
          Yes, if itauma can beat someone who usyk only recently beat, and is one of usyk better wins, like ddd is. Or beats flip or kabayel, fighters who usyk hasn't beat, then it will be worth usyk fighting itauma. Maybe fury or Josh can fight itaum a too, can't rule anything out.
          Let's hope usyk v itauma is soon

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            #35
            Originally posted by hugh grant

            Yes, if itauma can beat someone who usyk only recently beat, and is one of usyk better wins, like ddd is. Or beats flip or kabayel, fighters who usyk hasn't beat, then it will be worth usyk fighting itauma. Maybe fury or Josh can fight itaum a too, can't rule anything out.
            Let's hope usyk v itauma is soon
            Fury and Joshy ain't going anywhere near Itauma after he exposed the fraudulence of Whyte cos they know there's no more lead in their pencils either.

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              #36
              Jake paul has a punchers chance too.

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                #37
                Benidorm Pudding LOL

                As a Brit this is very funny

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by pollywog

                  Fury and Joshy ain't going anywhere near Itauma after he exposed the fraudulence of Whyte cos they know there's no more lead in their pencils either.
                  If it get them a usyk x3 fight, who knows?

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                    #39
                    Even I will admit? Many top level heavyweight fighters could have a serious chance of beating Oleksandr Uysk.

                    The facts are? Oleksandr Uysk for sure is a all-time great fighter 'But he is not a formidable fighter, he has never been a Mike Tyson, Roy Jones Junior type talent. 95% of Uysk's top level fights he is being pushed by his opponents, and sustaining heavy damage in those encounters'.

                    Note: The only top level wins were Oleksandr Uysk has been able to put some distance between himself and the opponent has in all honesty? Been against Daniel Dubois I & II. Toney Bellew was dead at the weight of 200 pounds and really should have fought Uysk at Heavyweight. At the time of the stoppage two judges scoring the fight, had Bellew winning and one judge had the fight completely level'.

                    Other than that, he was pushed right to the line by a miles outside of his peak Derek Chisora, had two competitive fights with Anthony Joshua I & II. And in the aftermath of those fights, out of the two fighters Uysk had clearly been smashed up, and had sustained heavy structural damage. Then he had two competitive fights with Tyson Fury I & II, and again? Even Fury who is not renowned for his punching power, was able to damage Oleksandr Uysk'.

                    Beating Daniel Dubois is not an all-time great win 'If Anthony Joshua would have beaten Daniel Dubois when they fought, it would have just been universally considered a routine solid level win. Dubois has already been brutally beaten numerous times in his career, the type of loses which? Are actually bad loses, because they display a lacking in his game'.

                    Daniel Dubois is a front runner at top level 'Everyone in the sport of boxing knows the blue print on how to beat him, They knew this even before his fights against Oleksandr Uysk I & II'.

                    People can all check my posts 'Not long in the aftermath of Daniel Dubois beating Anthony Joshua. I stated? That Dubois in the future, will ether win in spectacular fashion or lose in spectacular fashion. It is almost imminent, it is just a matter of when and against what other top level fighter'.

                    And lets all look at what has happened since then? Daniel Dubois has been smashed up by a great fighter in Oleksandr Uysk 'But Uysk is not a fighter renowned for his punching power or brute strength'.

                    Anthony Joshua is obviously suffering, and most likely embarrassed he got beaten by Daniel Dubois 'And fought his worst ever professional boxing fight, in terms of basic fundamentals, tactics and committing a high frequency of unforced errors and technical mistakes'.

                    Oleksandr Uysk is all-time great fighter 'And the most accomplished boxer, which is currently active in the sport. But he has historically consistently not been able to beat other top level fighters by miles. Even though the media is trying their absolute best, to make him out to be that level of fighter. I know what I have been witnessing, Oleksandr Uysk has never shown that level of ability as a fighter at top level'.

                    I personally don't think Oleksandr Usyk's nearest competition are intimidated by him 'They admire and respect his accomplishments, and skill level. But he is has not got the heavyweight division shook right down to their boots. And this is one of the reasons why I give certain fighters a chance of beating Oleksandr Uysk'.

                    Moses Itauma has achieved nothing much in the professional ranks 'And I am still critical of his abilities. Itauma during interviews is showing no signs of apprehension of fighting Oleksandr Uysk'.

                    To conclude: When Lennox Lewis was the premier heavyweight champion and had dreadlocks 'That would not happen. His nearest competition were extremely apprehensive. When Mike Tyson was at his peak as Champion, or even during most of the 90's. Tyson's nearest competitors were also apprehensive, many of them petrified by the prospect of challenging him. And it was the same situation with George Foreman during his career'.

                    Okeksandr Uysk is not that level of heavyweight champion 'Fighters are backing themselves to beat him, when they have not really achieved much in the game'.

                    If Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua 'Where both matched against Oleksandr Uysk for a trilogy fight. I will give both still a serious chance to winning'. I have stated many times before I would back Joshua to beat Uysk in a trilogy fight' etc.


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                    • SouthpawRight
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

                      And who would be a great opponent in hw division?

                      There are no Canelo, Bud, Inoue, Bivol, beterbiev level guys around.
                      there isn’t one

                      my point is this Usyk fighter is undefeated but has looked beatable multiple times

                      Majority Decision Briedis
                      Split Decision Buff Guy Joshua
                      Split Decision Teletubby Fury

                      and doesn’t have one dominant performance over a great opponent because there are none

                      Moses is the only heavyweight who’s potentially great

                      While Usyk is levels better than Parker, Parker’s right could be a handful for Usyk

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