Margarito loaded gloves vs Cotto(100% MYTH)

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  • NotIron
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    #51
    Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby

    A plethora of reasons lol you haven't said 1. If he had plaster in the gloves why did some fighters take the punches? Stop being so insecure and answer
    I don't need to give a reason, the fact remains, though, that are a plethora of reasons as to potentially why.

    You can't just assert that there wasn't illegal wraps because the punches were taken. That's a fallacious argument and a non argument.

    Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
    They would investigate the massive incompetence and/or any payments from Margarito to the commission for them to have helped him cheat.
    What are you even babbling on about now?

    Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
    just because you say it's true doesn't make it so. Nazzim said he felt the cushion while it was on the table and that's the 1 that had "a block" in it. Nothing about the other hand having also had illegal substances
    BOTH wraps had illegal substances on them, idiot. Look it up.

    And yes, the one that was APPROVED by CSAC.

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      #52
      Originally posted by elfag



      It came out he got permission to use a water IV, which required notification to the testing agency.

      He did not violate any rules and he didnt get "caught" using any "masking agents" other than water.
      Nah, he got an "exemption" about 3 weeks after the fight happened.

      And that was only when the story came to light, about getting caught using an illegal IV, which he did.

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      • dibzvincent143
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        #53
        Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
        "Margarito used loaded gloves vs Cotto" has to take the cake as the most insane myth in the history of sports. I just watched a clip of Jim Lampley on Joe Rogan podcast talking about it like it was an undisputed concrete fact.

        You literally can not find even a single soul in the universe accusing Margarito of loading gloves or plaster or anything suspi cious related to gloves or wraps or any equipment what so ever. Not Cotto or anyone associated with Cotto, no one in the commission, no one involved in the promotion or HBO. Not a news article, not a video, not a message board post, not a tweet, not even a youtube comment.... NOTHING. Zero suspi cion what so ever

        Then he next fight he gets caught attempting to use loaded gloves vs Mosley and people create this fantastical completely retroactive fairytale about him using loaded gloves against Cotto.

        Let's breakdown how Margarito got caught attempting to use loaded gloves vs Mosley. He literally got caught during the first possible procedure. There are multiple procedures before during and after the fight in which loaded gloves would get caught. But somehow people believe Naz im Richardson was the most diligent person in the world and only he could catch it. To believe he got away with using loaded gloves in a fight without getting caught requires the ref and commission all to have conspired with each other on behalf of Margarito and lie at multiple points before during and after the match

        Reminder there has never been any investigation what so ever(nor has Cotto ever requested or even mentioned wanting one... hmmm I wonder why) in to Margarito using loaded gloves vs Cotto or in any other actual boxing match. Only his attempt vs Mosley.

        Literally the only evidence that anyone had ever even tried to come up with for him using loaded gloves was a picture of Margarito after the fight with some red dye on his wraps(obviously from the red gloves). I guess trying to insinuate that his knuckles are bloody from the plaster lol.

        Also to believe Margarito was using loaded gloves means you must believe guys like Clottey and Paul Williams have faces and arms and torsos made of steal because how were they not cut getting hit with plaster? Why is there zero talk about there superhumanly durable skin?

        So in closing can we please give up this silly myth in 2025. What is easier to believe?

        ‐ Commisions and refs from several states and countries all pulled off a massive cover up lasting years and years.
        - Joshua Clottey and dozens of other opponents have superhuman skin.
        - Naz im Richardson has xray plaster vision.
        - That Margarito and his trainers are such masterful cheaters that he pulled it all off with zero susp icion from any opponent then suddenly get caught right away.

        Or

        that Cotto just got his ass kicked.

        ???????
        Margarito was a very strong fighter in his prime albeit pretty limited… the first time he ever looked world class elite fighter, and very damaging against a very good top fighter — atleast to me — was against Cotto. Suddenly he was on top of the world in 2008… all the mayweather is scared of him made sense.. or why he was avoided..

        Then the very next fight he fights an older boxer who got defeated by the guy he just pummeled then he gets caught with them wraps.

        so there alone we could make theories..

        1. Why would you need a plaster against an older guy that got defeated by the guy you just pummeled brutally?
        2. Margarito never looked as damaging against a top fighter than he did against Cotto, so there’s a possibility that the first time he ever used them wraps was against Cotto? And the second time would have been against Mosley?

        at the end of the day, his reputation being ruined, him being accused was all their doing… him and his team.. so they can’t play victim when people have their opinions…

        we don’t need to look further with his other fights..






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          #54
          Originally posted by elfag



          That is all speculation not proof that he used wraps with Cotto

          Cotto has been trying to "erase" a loss of his record retroactively with ZERO PROOF he was cheated. Margo used the wraps that Cottos Team approved, end of.


          Cotto has also claimed that he beat Mayweather and Canelo, he has always had a problem admitting he lost, I think the only fight hes ever actually admitted to losing was Pacquaio and he had an out since it was a catch weight he could blame it on that even though he accepted that catch weight
          Yes, it is speculation. Though can you answer why on earth would Margarito decide to plaster up vs Mosley and not Cotto, 1 fight prior that would make him a superstar if he won? Just answer that. Curious on your take.

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          • SCtrojansbaby
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            #55
            Originally posted by dibzvincent143

            Margarito was a very strong fighter in his prime albeit pretty limited… the first time he ever looked world class elite fighter, and very damaging against a very good top fighter — atleast to me — was against Cotto. Suddenly he was on top of the world in 2008… all the mayweather is scared of him made sense.. or why he was avoided..

            Then the very next fight he fights an older boxer who got defeated by the guy he just pummeled then he gets caught with them wraps.

            so there alone we could make theories..

            1. Why would you need a plaster against an older guy that got defeated by the guy you just pummeled brutally?
            2. Margarito never looked as damaging against a top fighter than he did against Cotto, so there’s a possibility that the first time he ever used them wraps was against Cotto? And the second time would have been against Mosley?

            at the end of the day, his reputation being ruined, him being accused was all their doing… him and his team.. so they can’t play victim when people have their opinions…

            we don’t need to look further with his other fights..
            Paul Williams was considered a better and more talented boxer than Cotto ever was which is why Cotto and everyone else was running away from him. So did Paul Williams have an cast iron face?

            also Margarito looked just as powerful against Martinez and Cintron x2

            The idea that Margarito started to "plaster up" only against Cotto is just completely nonsensical.

            Why would Margarito the cheating mastermind choose to plaster up for the 1st time in a fight with the most attention and cameras

            and guess what none of that even matters, tell me how he got away with the plaster with zero su****ion what so ever from anyone on earth? Why hasn't Cotto or anyone else asked for an investigation on his supposed plaster use?

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            • SCtrojansbaby
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              #56
              Originally posted by ELPacman

              Yes, it is speculation. Though can you answer why on earth would Margarito decide to plaster up vs Mosley and not Cotto, 1 fight prior that would make him a superstar if he won? Just answer that. Curious on your take.
              1st of all who cares explain how he got away with it and why it was never investigated

              2nd of all why would he decide to plaster up vs Cotto and not Paul Williams a bigger better and more talented fighter than Cotto or Mosley

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                #57
                Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
                1st of all who cares explain how he got away with it and why it was never investigated

                2nd of all why would he decide to plaster up vs Cotto and not Paul Williams a bigger better and more talented fighter than Cotto or Mosley
                There is a chance he did plaster up for P.Williams. Just that P.Williams was able to take it. In fact, I suspect he's been doing something for awhile. The way he punched that one dude's ear off his head (Sebastian something). Then the way he had Kermit Cintron dropping left and right in both fights. Something didn't add up. This dude with that many losses all a sudden is icing everyone.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by elfag



                  It came out he got permission to use a water IV, which required notification to the testing agency.
                  Two weeks after the fight was over and everybody's check cleared sounds about right

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                  • SCtrojansbaby
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by ELPacman

                    There is a chance he did plaster up for P.Williams. Just that P.Williams was able to take it. In fact, I suspect he's been doing something for awhile. The way he punched that one dude's ear off his head (Sebastian something). Then the way he had Kermit Cintron dropping left and right in both fights. Something didn't add up. This dude with that many losses all a sudden is icing everyone.
                    Margarito had 3 losses as a teenager. 1 of them when he was 16. It doesn’t add up that he got better and stronger as an adults LMAO

                    Paul Williams has superhuman skin now?

                    Also you or no one else suspected anything about loading gloves until he got caught in his attempt before the gloves even got on lol. But somehow these criminal masterminds went through all the checks and procedures with no su****ion what so ever

                    Come on the lengths yall are going to keep this myth alive.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby

                      Margarito had 3 losses as a teenager. 1 of them when he was 16. It doesn’t add up that he got better and stronger as an adults LMAO

                      Paul Williams has superhuman skin now?

                      Also you or no one else suspected anything about loading gloves until he got caught in his attempt before the gloves even got on lol. But somehow these criminal masterminds went through all the checks and procedures with no su****ion what so ever

                      Come on the lengths yall are going to keep this myth alive.
                      Cmon man, anyone that gets caught, it's normal to then suspect they may have been up to it previously. That's part of the norm. I still don't understand why Margarito would all a sudden rock up for a supposedly "faded" Mosley that gave Cotto a good fight years prior and Margarito had just beaten up? He suspected Mosley was a tougher challenge than the super bowl of boxing matchup in Cotto? Again, the fight to make him a megastar in Mexico considering the reputation Cotto had and was unbeaten.

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