Margarito loaded gloves vs Cotto(100% MYTH)

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  • NotIron
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    #41
    Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
    If they are in question why haven't they been investigated? Why hasn't anyone even asked for them to be Investigated?

    Show me where it says anything that had been approved had plaster?

    and you are still running away from providing any theory for how he would got away with it, how other fighters took the "plaster punches" fine. Or how Cotto himself took the "plaster punches" just fine for the 1st several rounds. How did no one find the shards of plaster that would have been coming out of his gloves and wraps after the fight

    You're throwing a fit because you don't want to admit what gullible fool you are.
    Already answered that question; There could be a plethora of reasons as to why that is. That’s not an argument.

    They aren’t being investigated because there’s no way to prove it in hindusight dumbass.

    The one glove was approved, after being re wrapped they found illegal substances in both gloves, just a fact you thick cunt.

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    • SCtrojansbaby
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      #42
      Originally posted by NotIron

      Already answered that question; There could be a plethora of reasons as to why that is. That’s not an argument.

      They aren’t being investigated because there’s no way to prove it in hindusight dumbass.

      The one glove was approved, after being re wrapped they found illegal substances in both gloves, just a fact you thick cunt.
      A plethora of reasons lol you haven't said 1. If he had plaster in the gloves why did some fighters take the punches? Stop being so insecure and answer

      They would investigate the massive incompetence and/or any payments from Margarito to the commission for them to have helped him cheat.

      just because you say it's true doesn't make it so. Nazzim said he felt the cushion while it was on the table and that's the 1 that had "a block" in it. Nothing about the other hand having also had illegal substances

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        #43
        Wait, so Margarito decided to JUST start using loaded wraps for Mosley who he was SUPPOSED to beat because he was mostly over the hill and on his way out? That we're supposed to forget Cotto-Margarito 1 was the super bowl of welterweight boxing at that time? Two highly offensive fighters that were destroying all their opponents? So Margarito would never have loaded vs the opponent that would make him a world wide star/hero of Mexico, but instead try to vs an old, over the hill Mosley? Lol. Bro, you're reaching here if you believe Margarito only loaded for Mosley.

        Yet the truth was Cotto was the real one destroying all of his opponents and Margarito just STARTED to destroy all his opponents a few fights prior. Hmmm? I made a prior post on this. Margarito had a few losses piled up. His career was on the way down the gutter. He get's a call to face the likes of rising potential star Kermit Cintron and drops the dude all over the place where he previously was not going down. Then goes on to wreck opponents. Punching Sebastian Lujan's ear off his head. I mean the signs were all there. Thank Gawd for Nazeem Richardson.

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          #44
          great thread OP


          Ive been saying the same thing for YEARS


          The real proof is look at the rematch, Cotto still had hell of a time with a post Pacquaio broken orbital bone Margo. Cotto was getting roughed up in there and the difference in the rematch wasnt that Margos punches didnt hurt cotto it was that Cotto had a healing orbital bone to target and re-break. That is a career ending injury for many fighters. Look at Saunders he still hasnt fought in 4 years after that injury.


          Facts are that Margo fought 13 months after a career ending injury against Pacquaio. And it was 3 years and 2 KO losses after his first fight with Cotto. This is why cotto won the rematch which sure he won all within the rules but they use the idea that cotto lost the first fight and won a rematch against a faded broken Margo as "Proof" that margo used wraps.

          They even interviewed clotty and asked him if he thought Margo used wraps against him and he said no he didnt th ink his punches were super hard or anything just lots of stamina

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            #45
            Originally posted by ELPacman
            Wait, so Margarito decided to JUST start using loaded wraps for Mosley who he was SUPPOSED to beat because he was mostly over the hill and on his way out? That we're supposed to forget Cotto-Margarito 1 was the super bowl of welterweight boxing at that time? Two highly offensive fighters that were destroying all their opponents? So Margarito would never have loaded vs the opponent that would make him a world wide star/hero of Mexico, but instead try to vs an old, over the hill Mosley? Lol. Bro, you're reaching here if you believe Margarito only loaded for Mosley.

            Yet the truth was Cotto was the real one destroying all of his opponents and Margarito just STARTED to destroy all his opponents a few fights prior. Hmmm? I made a prior post on this. Margarito had a few losses piled up. His career was on the way down the gutter. He get's a call to face the likes of rising potential star Kermit Cintron and drops the dude all over the place where he previously was not going down. Then goes on to wreck opponents. Punching Sebastian Lujan's ear off his head. I mean the signs were all there. Thank Gawd for Nazeem Richardson.


            That is all speculation not proof that he used wraps with Cotto

            Cotto has been trying to "erase" a loss of his record retroactively with ZERO PROOF he was cheated. Margo used the wraps that Cottos Team approved, end of.


            Cotto has also claimed that he beat Mayweather and Canelo, he has always had a problem admitting he lost, I think the only fight hes ever actually admitted to losing was Pacquaio and he had an out since it was a catch weight he could blame it on that even though he accepted that catch weight

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              #46
              If you listen to cotto he has only 1 or 2 losses on his record.


              margo I - he was cheated (with no proof) never said anything about super human punches until AFTER the mosley thing then claims they were super human.



              Mayweather, trout, canelo - he won all those fights and judges just hate him. Any close fights like Mosley that he won the judges also still hated him.


              Pacquaio - he was weight drained even though he was 146 weigh in before, 145 that he agreed to weight drained him


              Ali - i dont even remember at this point if he accepted reality or made excuses but he was shot by then

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                #47
                Originally posted by djtmal

                Like when Floyd got popped with Illegal iv masking agents ped man


                It came out he got permission to use a water IV, which required notification to the testing agency.

                He did not violate any rules and he didnt get "caught" using any "masking agents" other than water.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by elfag



                  It came out he got permission to use a water IV, which required notification to the testing agency.

                  He did not violate any rules and he didnt get "caught" using any "masking agents" other than water.
                  did floyd spend too long in his sauna?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Smash

                    did floyd spend too long in his sauna?


                    Realistically I believe all elite boxers are on PEDs but that is an uncommon position. The most common position is for people to claim boxers they dont like are on PEDs while their favorite fighters were clean.

                    So I will argue Floyds case because people are singling him out when they dont like him and they also have no proof they just have circumstantial evidence which isnt much better than guys coming in with acne or puffy ******* or demanding restrictions on when they can be blood tested "randomly", on and on


                    Floyd was the best boxer on the planet as a 38 year old man. I dont believe that is possible without PEDs.

                    That also means I dont think its possible for Crawford, Usyk or Beterbiev to be elite at their age either without PEDs


                    Remember in the 1980s, late 30s, like an Ali, Holmes, SRL ect was completely shot in those days. These days late 30s are dominating the sport. Gullible people think its because of better protein shakes.
                    Last edited by elfag; 08-23-2025, 08:46 PM.

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                    • low blows
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
                      "Margarito used loaded gloves vs Cotto" has to take the cake as the most insane myth in the history of sports. I just watched a clip of Jim Lampley on Joe Rogan podcast talking about it like it was an undisputed concrete fact.

                      You literally can not find even a single soul in the universe accusing Margarito of loading gloves or plaster or anything suspi cious related to gloves or wraps or any equipment what so ever. Not Cotto or anyone associated with Cotto, no one in the commission, no one involved in the promotion or HBO. Not a news article, not a video, not a message board post, not a tweet, not even a youtube comment.... NOTHING. Zero suspi cion what so ever

                      Then he next fight he gets caught attempting to use loaded gloves vs Mosley and people create this fantastical completely retroactive fairytale about him using loaded gloves against Cotto.

                      Let's breakdown how Margarito got caught attempting to use loaded gloves vs Mosley. He literally got caught during the first possible procedure. There are multiple procedures before during and after the fight in which loaded gloves would get caught. But somehow people believe Naz im Richardson was the most diligent person in the world and only he could catch it. To believe he got away with using loaded gloves in a fight without getting caught requires the ref and commission all to have conspired with each other on behalf of Margarito and lie at multiple points before during and after the match

                      Reminder there has never been any investigation what so ever(nor has Cotto ever requested or even mentioned wanting one... hmmm I wonder why) in to Margarito using loaded gloves vs Cotto or in any other actual boxing match. Only his attempt vs Mosley.

                      Literally the only evidence that anyone had ever even tried to come up with for him using loaded gloves was a picture of Margarito after the fight with some red dye on his wraps(obviously from the red gloves). I guess trying to insinuate that his knuckles are bloody from the plaster lol.

                      Also to believe Margarito was using loaded gloves means you must believe guys like Clottey and Paul Williams have faces and arms and torsos made of steal because how were they not cut getting hit with plaster? Why is there zero talk about there superhumanly durable skin?

                      So in closing can we please give up this silly myth in 2025. What is easier to believe?

                      ‐ Commisions and refs from several states and countries all pulled off a massive cover up lasting years and years.
                      - Joshua Clottey and dozens of other opponents have superhuman skin.
                      - Naz im Richardson has xray plaster vision.
                      - That Margarito and his trainers are such masterful cheaters that he pulled it all off with zero susp icion from any opponent then suddenly get caught right away.

                      Or

                      that Cotto just got his ass kicked.

                      ???????
                      I know you're trolling but he destroyed guys like Citron and Cotto in a similar manner where they teed off on is wide open head as he swung wide and telegraphed shots and then as his loaded hands hardened he slowly broke down these guys like loaded gloves would.

                      The man deserved a long prison sentence plus forfeiture of his purses in these fights.

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