Usyk vs Itauma is the superfight

[NihonJim]

Wilder fought considerably better fighters than Whyte like Ortiz and Fury. The same Ortiz that Whyte ducked after calling him out by name.

Whyte ducked Ortiz. Whyte ducked Breazeale. Whyte ducked Pulev. Whyte ducked Joshua.

Whyte was never going to fight Wilder and the only reason he ever fought Fury is because his plan to get an email title failed. He's a 4X PED cheat, a serial ducker, and a complete fraud.

And Wilder is a clown too, don't get that twisted. But Whyte's persecution complex is ludicrous. He was offered a unified title shot and 3 final eliminators and turned them all down, then cried to the media that everyone was ducking him.

Ortiz isn't better than Whyte lol.

[famicommander]

Ortiz isn't better than Whyte lol.

Then why did Whyte call him out by name, then get offered a final eliminator for a world title shot against him, and then shamelessly duck him?

[Bennyleonard99]

Wilder fought considerably better fighters than Whyte like Ortiz and Fury. The same Ortiz that Whyte ducked after calling him out by name.

Whyte ducked Ortiz. Whyte ducked Breazeale. Whyte ducked Pulev. Whyte ducked Joshua.

Whyte was never going to fight Wilder and the only reason he ever fought Fury is because his plan to get an email title failed. He's a 4X PED cheat, a serial ducker, and a complete fraud.

And Wilder is a clown too, don't get that twisted. But Whyte's persecution complex is ludicrous. He was offered a unified title shot and 3 final eliminators and turned them all down, then cried to the media that everyone was ducking him.

Wilder only fought pbc employees who were not allowed to beat Haymon's no. 1 pet Wilder. But of course you think all of those Wilder fake fights were real because you believe everything is real in boxing except that one fix Lamotta vs Fox.

Wilder is nothing, was nothing and never was nothing. Whyte would have killed him and Haymon Finkel knew it and safeguarded their bird legged loud mouth fraud.

[Bennyleonard99]

There was no reason to fight Ortiz after Haymon rigged Sulaiman to force Whyte to do it. He had already earned and paid for the mandatory ranking. Why risk it with a rigged fight vs Ortiz? Wilder should have obeyed the WBC rules and fought his no.1 contender Whyte.

Whyte would have been a fool to go and fight Ortiz and get robbed by another Haymon fix. After he already had the no.1 ranking to get Wilder.

[Willow The Wisp]

Parker and Kabayel don't move the needle at all, two plain jane contenders with no star power. They are permanent B sides. Itauma has flash and flair and flamboyance. Everybody loves to see a young gun kick down the door. Itauma thinks he's ready, that's all that matters. Bring it on.

That's a BS way of thinking. Moses Itauma isn't quite ready, though today's fight, if he wins, will move him much closer.

Parker and Kabayel would move the needle a GREAT DEAL, removing the forever stigma of having made his name against 2015 - 2021 range elites at the tail end of their career. That would be a fairly big asterisks upon his legacy moving forward to those in the know.


How old are you? Your posts quite often reflect opinions having strong belief and fairly poor knowledge base behind them; an indicator of youth.

[famicommander]

There was no reason to fight Ortiz after Haymon rigged Sulaiman to force Whyte to do it. He had already earned and paid for the mandatory ranking. Why risk it with a rigged fight vs Ortiz? Wilder should have obeyed the WBC rules and fought his no.1 contender Whyte.

Whyte would have been a fool to go and fight Ortiz and get robbed by another Haymon fix. After he already had the no.1 ranking to get Wilder.

No, he had not earned a mandatory spot. You earn a mandatory spot by winning an eliminator, which Whyte refused to do until the WBC let him fight Rivas for an interim belt (in a fight where Whyte changed gloves after the glove selection meeting and then popped for PEDs).

Being #1 is not an automatic mandatory challenge. Especially when there are other guys that have already won eliminators in line ahead of you.

Whyte knows this, he just counts on boxing fans who don't know the rules or follow the news to make his case for him. Embarrassing.

[Bennyleonard99]

No, he had not earned a mandatory spot. You earn a mandatory spot by winning an eliminator, which Whyte refused to do until the WBC let him fight Rivas for an interim belt (in a fight where Whyte changed gloves after the glove selection meeting and then popped for PEDs).

Being #1 is not an automatic mandatory challenge. Especially when there are other guys that have already won eliminators in line ahead of you.

Whyte knows this, he just counts on boxing fans who don't know the rules or follow the news to make his case for him. Embarrassing.

Look at the Whyte wikipedia page, it confirms the win vs Chisora was a WBC eliminator. The WBC then scrooed Whyte with some monkey business as manipulated by Haymon to protect Wilder. You just are not bright enough to know the politrickery pulled by Haymon Sulaiman.

[Bennyleonard99]

That's a BS way of thinking. Moses Itauma isn't quite ready, though today's fight, if he wins, will move him much closer.

Parker and Kabayel would move the needle a GREAT DEAL, removing the forever stigma of having made his name against 2015 - 2021 range elites at the tail end of their career. That would be a fairly big asterisks upon his legacy moving forward to those in the know.


How old are you? Your posts quite often reflect opinions having strong belief and fairly poor knowledge base behind them; an indicator of youth.

Itauma is actually ready for Usyk or anyone from history. Yes he was that impressive vs Whyte in every category of a great young fighter. He was born for this. The skeptics love to be skeptical as it makes them feel wise and brilliant. But sometimes greatness is so flagrantly obvious early on that there's absolutely no doubt - Lennox KO Razor, Vitali KO Hide, Pacquiao KO Ledwaba, Leonard KO Price, Hearns KO Cuevas, Mayorga KO Forrest, Dempsey KO Willard, Hamed KO Tom Johnson, Wladimi KO Mercer.

Parker and Kabayel are okay optional defenses but they can't beat Usyk or Itauma. The fight now is Usyk vs Itauma and it has to be made now. Old Gen vs Next Gen. Matador vs bull. Multi dimensions vs multi dimensions. Sensational vs spectacular. The king vs the prince. Turki is right, this is the fight the world has been waiting for after the disappointing failure of Fury, Wilder and also Joshua. Let the kid have his turn next.

[famicommander]

Look at the Whyte wikipedia page, it confirms the win vs Chisora was a WBC eliminator. The WBC then scrooed Whyte with some monkey business as manipulated by Haymon to protect Wilder. You just are not bright enough to know the politrickery pulled by Haymon Sulaiman.

An eliminator is not a final eliminator.

[Joseph]

Itauma and Torrez, arguably two sides of the future coin, are currently both 13-0 with 11 KO's apiece. Interesting. No doubt these two will/should collide at some point.