Let's fix Boxing In America with organizational development

[real raw]

Its Carlisle. It's called Carlisle, PA. You dumb fraud.

You lived in Pennsylvania for 40 years and used to box there but you cant spell the city ? You a lying fraud lmaooooooooo

Dudd just exposed your self. Maybe you drove through Pennsylvania lol. You probably a lazy slob truckers. Yes there's alot of truckers in Carlisle lmaoooooo

you damn sure not from Pennsylvania. You might be an American citizen but you don't sound like a legit American probably a 2nd generation immigrant lol.

Kick rocks fraud.

Lol. do you really think anyone from philly gives a flying ---- about carlisle pa? lol. your thin skinned self cant even develop a strong arguement relative to the post you created. you fall apart at the slightest disagreement and resort to name calling. Weak retorts, weak mind = weak man.

[MalevolentBite]

Lol. do you really think anyone from philly gives a flying ---- about carlisle pa? lol. your thin skinned self cant even develop a strong arguement relative to the post you created. you fall apart at the slightest disagreement and resort to name calling. Weak retorts, weak mind = weak man.

I know this. I know you are a trucker. I know you are not from Pennsylvania. I know you are probably not from philly. I dont think you are even a boxing fan. I think you are a jag off. I think you travel through states as a trucker and stop at sheetz, rutters, loves and flying J looking for lot lizards. See you might be able to fool your friends and family but not all lot lizards are women, you like men.

You don't enjoy boxing. You enjoy watching men with their shirts off. You get off on it. I bet you do have family in Philly. I bet you drive your truck up to Philly and park it at the rest stop looking for boys. Philly is a LBGT city. See over in central Pennsylvania that sht doesn't fly. I see your angle you are a nasty jag off trucker.

Philly is a predominantly black city. Yet you wouldnt self identify when i asked you this question. You are a jag off that is most likely white or Hispanic that likes big black bucks. Why else would a grown man go online on a boxing website and talk to mostly men with the user name RAW? Who in the h3ll are you giving raw too, around here ? There's nothing but men on here you nasty jag off.

Carlisle is a white city. Aint no black person from philly traveling all the way to Carlisle to do no boxing you nasty jag off. You exposed your self thats the west shore and since you stated you did this a long time ago those areas in Pennsylvania were highly racist back then.

They even had sun down towns in Pennsylvania. So I know you ain't black. You probably drove your truck through Carlisle, PA and decided to park it at the truck stop by arbys and catch a cab to down town to find young men at bars down there. You ain't slick RAW. I bet you allow them to give it to you RAW.

You need Jesus. You are one sick jag off. You dont like my idea because my idea would bring all nationalities back into boxing as fans.

Sugar Leonard was an American icon because he had white fans, black fans, Asian fans and etc. Just like Ali, Frazier, Tyson, Roy Jones and many more. No you don't want white family originated people at the shows. You want a boots type of show were the crow is 90% black and it looks like the source awards. I went to a boots show in AC. It was Hood! Not one single white couple ! You think you can sell that bs to the average American? Thats why you want boots to stay in philly. You are attracted to black thug men it turns you on. You a jag off. You like the Gervonte Davis, Boots, Charlo, Broner crowds thats your type.

I bet you live in a ***** city like Atlantic. Thats why you didn't want to give me your race and city. You are one nasty jag trucker off.

Keep driving trucks thats a good career but you need to sleek help RAW. Keep it up you will end up like magic.

Boxing will not grow until All Americans of different nationality and races come back as fans and support home grown talent. Thats what will help American boxing. Bringing back the Gattis , Vinnie, Micky Ward, Tommy Morrison and clean cut Hearns, Hagler and Leonard not that ****** philly sht or that bs Atlantic city fight. You couldn't even bring a family to that event. It was filled with hood rat wanna be Mu5lims and people sagging. It was nuts. Thats why my idea makes sense but of course you got a motive against me because you are looking for BBC you nasty jag off. Get help RAW.

[MalevolentBite]

Each state can also set up an pension plans for their champions. See the Marco Antonio Barrera story about California on boxingscene.

[The D3vil]

Stevenson is not known outside the boxing community stop that.

Shields is increasing her popularity by going online and beefing with Remy ma and dating Papoose. She got the highest ceiling but she was never as popular as Rhonda Rousey. Everyone knew Rhonda. UFC does a better job promoting fighers.

Amanda Serrano is lucky to find Jake Paul. He helped her alot and him putting her on netflix.

That's not true at all.

Plenty of cats in the hood know Shakur Stevenson.

Shields had movies & documentaries made about her BEFORE she was dating Papoose for the last year or so.

She was one of the main stories of the 2012 & 2016 Olympics

Yes, Amanda Serrano is lucky to find Jake Paul, because unlike Claressa Shields, she wasn't an American Olympic star.

Shields had buzz from her first fight because of the Olympics.

[MalevolentBite]

That's not true at all.

Plenty of cats in the hood know Shakur Stevenson.

Shields had movies & documentaries made about her BEFORE she was dating Papoose for the last year or so.

She was one of the main stories of the 2012 & 2016 Olympics

Yes, Amanda Serrano is lucky to find Jake Paul, because unlike Claressa Shields, she wasn't an American Olympic star.

Shields had buzz from her first fight because of the Olympics.

You're right. the hood isnt the average American. So you just proved my point. No (average) American. When i say average I mean the common person who probably isnt a casual boxing fan. Sugar Ray Leonard , Hagler, Ali, Frazier, Mike tyson are well known to all Americans regardless if they watch boxing or not. They are American Icons. None of those fighters are American icons. Nobody in rural / suburbia in Idaho, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, Kentucky, Indiana knows Clarissa or Stevenson. You are on a boxing page so of course you feel the need to defend them.

Go to the whites part of your state and pull up a picture of Stevenson and see if they know him. Then go to the Asian part of town, then Indian part of town. Then go to the American Legion, Free mason, elk Lounge or biker club and put up a picture and see how many Average Americans know him. No black inner city people or casual boxing fans. Average Joe working the pump at the high way gas station. Go do it.

Then pull up a picture of Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Hagler and Leonard and see the results lol.

[MalevolentBite]

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Philadelphia eagles just announced they are allowing male cheerleaders. Someone tell RAW he can park his truck in Philly this season and look at the boys.

[MalevolentBite]

That's not true at all.

Plenty of cats in the hood know Shakur Stevenson.

Shields had movies & documentaries made about her BEFORE she was dating Papoose for the last year or so.

She was one of the main stories of the 2012 & 2016 Olympics

Yes, Amanda Serrano is lucky to find Jake Paul, because unlike Claressa Shields, she wasn't an American Olympic star.

Shields had buzz from her first fight because of the Olympics.

Go look at the BET sports women of the year award. How did angel Reese win the award over Shields? We as boxing fans know that Angel Reese hasn't dont anything better in her basketball career then what Shields has done.
Go look at the shade room or neighborhood talk when Claressa complained about not winning the BET award. The comments literally stated and I quote. Claressa we didn't know you until you started dating papoose and fighting with Remy Ma. Please explain this if shes so well known to the AVERAGE American.

You are being disingenuous or ignorant. These boxers are not well known outside of their circle but Claressa is more known than Stevenson.

[MalevolentBite]

Raw. Stated he was from Pennsylvania and nobody needs to come to harrisburg. Harrisburg is the number 3 ranked high school football team in the state lol. Dude is a fraud. Football is king in America and harrisburg leads the state.

[The D3vil]

You're right. the hood isnt the average American. So you just proved my point. No (average) American. When i say average I mean the common person who probably isnt a casual boxing fan. Sugar Ray Leonard , Hagler, Ali, Frazier, Mike tyson are well known to all Americans regardless if they watch boxing or not. They are American Icons. None of those fighters are American icons. Nobody in rural / suburbia in Idaho, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, Kentucky, Indiana knows Clarissa or Stevenson. You are on a boxing page so of course you feel the need to defend them.

Go to the whites part of your state and pull up a picture of Stevenson and see if they know him. Then go to the Asian part of town, then Indian part of town. Then go to the American Legion, Free mason, elk Lounge or biker club and put up a picture and see how many Average Americans know him. No black inner city people or casual boxing fans. Average Joe working the pump at the high way gas station. Go do it.

Then pull up a picture of Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Hagler and Leonard and see the results lol.

Stevenson didn't win the gold medal. He was a bronze medalist. If he had like Oscar or Ali or Frazier or Foreman, he'd be more well known than he is.

Still, he's more well known than 90% of American boxers, currently

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Go look at the BET sports women of the year award. How did angel Reese win the award over Shields? We as boxing fans know that Angel Reese hasn't dont anything better in her basketball career then what Shields has done.
Go look at the shade room or neighborhood talk when Claressa complained about not winning the BET award. The comments literally stated and I quote. Claressa we didn't know you until you started dating papoose and fighting with Remy Ma. Please explain this if shes so well known to the AVERAGE American.

You are being disingenuous or ignorant. These boxers are not well known outside of their circle but Claressa is more known than Stevenson.

What's your argument?

That boxing isn't as popular as basketball?

Well DUH, we already knew that. That's not the argument.

The argument is whether boxers who have Olympic backgrounds are on average more well-known than those that don't & fact is, that The Olympics gave Claressa Shields a leg up on every other women's boxer (not named Laila Ali) in American boxing.

You're the one being ignorant or disingenuous by completely creating a strawman argument

I'm comparing boxers to boxers

You're bringing basketball players in here as if basketball has anything to do with this argument.

Claressa Shields as an OLYMPIAN had more hype coming into her career than any American woman in history, who didn't have the world's most famous athlete as her father

Shakur Stevenson had more hype coming into his career than 90% of American boxers because people had watched him (crying) on The Olympics.

Even Keyshawn Davis got some notoriety for having Snoop Dogg & Kevin Hart making fun of him at The Olympics.

[MalevolentBite]

Stevenson didn't win the gold medal. He was a bronze medalist. If he had like Oscar or Ali or Frazier or Foreman, he'd be more well known than he is.

Still, he's more well known than 90% of American boxers, currently

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What's your argument?

That boxing isn't as popular as basketball?

Well DUH, we already knew that. That's not the argument.

The argument is whether boxers who have Olympic backgrounds are on average more well-known than those that don't & fact is, that The Olympics gave Claressa Shields a leg up on every other women's boxer (not named Laila Ali) in American boxing.

You're the one being ignorant or disingenuous by completely creating a strawman argument

I'm comparing boxers to boxers

You're bringing basketball players in here as if basketball has anything to do with this argument.

Claressa Shields as an OLYMPIAN had more hype coming into her career than any American woman in history, who didn't have the world's most famous athlete as her father

Shakur Stevenson had more hype coming into his career than 90% of American boxers because people had watched him (crying) on The Olympics.

Even Keyshawn Davis got some notoriety for having Snoop Dogg & Kevin Hart making fun of him at The Olympics.

Its not a strawman argument. My whole trend to to make boxing more popular to the average American lol. Thats my whole point. None of the boxers are you mentioned are popular to the average American so not lying.

So once again. Basketball is more popular because its more exposed to the youth. Basketball is shown on tv, its played at every ymca, its played at the middle school and high school. Basketball players are shown more in society and in marketing. No current American boxer gets media exposure. Boxing is behind a pay wall , boxing isnt relatable to the AVERAGE American anymore. Boxing used to be the poor man's sport. It lost its identity. Thats what made boxing popular. So instead of argumening with me. Be like hey how can we make Stevenson and Shields appeal to the average American and not just the Hood !

the average American dont know keyshawn Davis lol. Come on man you sound crazy or live in a bubble.

Where do you live?