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  • real raw
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    #111
    Originally posted by MalevolentBite
    So Raw lied about being from Pennsylvania. Now another person will not reveal where they are from ?

    Yet on here on a AMERICAN boxing trend. when half of these American fighters are not known in America to average Americans.

    I never seen a Stevenson or Shields on a tv commercial in America but Canelo got three beer commercials during NFL Sunday. Then mike Lee got subway.

    So we got a white Hispanic boxer on tv and a white American on tv but non of the elite black boxers cant land one prime time commercial?

    Hes talking big about Shields but no commercial from the gold medal Olympic winner? Shes so popular? Come on now.

    Thats black peoples problem they will not see how that urban culture ruined their brand for big money. Hagler, Leonard were big American icons everyone liked Hagler, Leonard and Hearns they were everywhere.

    After them black American fighters stopped being marketable to American media now thats the issue and also lack of white boxers.

    We need grass roots boxing again.
    Look dumb ass, I didn't lie about a damned thing. I don't owe you any explanations or "proof" about where I'm from.

    For the record wtf do you care whether a black fighter is marketable or gets endorsements? Unless you are their agent, stop counting THEIR coin. And if you are their agent, then you only have yourself to blame if they aren't making bank. If you aren't their agent, then go get yourself a sit down and sell your services rather than whining about why they won't fight in bumb **** central pa.

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      #112
      "grass roots" boxing won't add up to a thing. For someone who claims to work in marketing and business, you don't know much. This isn't the 80s, 90s or even the same century. There's more than 3 TV stations, and 3 uhf channels. Boxing is entertainment, people have infinite possibilities to entertain themselves at the tip of their fingers. Gone are the days of "hometown hero".

      Boxing is a niche product. There's no sense in trying to market to "everyone" in America. It's best to lock down your target audience, and appeal to adjacent targets when they overlap.

      But since you have the "masterplan" go sell your services to who you can.

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        #113
        Idk why Raw is commenting on my post. He should be more concerned about driving on the road as a trucker. Focus on being a better trucker and leave this topic for the rest.

        Boxing wasnt a niche product in 1870-1970's it was arguably the most popular sport.

        Ali - Frazier 1

        The fight is widely regarded as the biggest boxing match in history and arguably the single most anticipated and publicized sporting event ever. An international audience observed the spectacle. It was the first time that two undefeated boxers who held or had held the world heavyweight title fought each other for that very title.
        The bout held broad appeal for many Americans, including non-boxing and non-sport fans.

        So once again. This batty boy chameleon doesn't know American history. Like I stated hes a lying tether. You are not BLACK!!! So dont speak on my topic for black boxers. Go speak on Hispanic or white boxers.

        my goal is to boxing back to that back to its greatness in America. America First!!

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          #114
          Originally posted by MalevolentBite
          Idk why Raw is commenting on my post. He should be more concerned about driving on the road as a trucker. Focus on being a better trucker and leave this topic for the rest.

          Boxing wasnt a niche product in 1870-1970's it was arguably the most popular sport.

          Ali - Frazier 1

          The fight is widely regarded as the biggest boxing match in history and arguably the single most anticipated and publicized sporting event ever. An international audience observed the spectacle. It was the first time that two undefeated boxers who held or had held the world heavyweight title fought each other for that very title.
          The bout held broad appeal for many Americans, including non-boxing and non-sport fans.

          So once again. This batty boy chameleon doesn't know American history. Like I stated hes a lying tether. You are not BLACK!!! So dont speak on my topic for black boxers. Go speak on Hispanic or white boxers.

          my goal is to boxing back to that back to its greatness in America. America First!!
          Lol. you wish i was a trucker. you are truly revealing you idiocy. During 1870-1970, there was nothing else to do. what a moron.

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            #115
            As a matter of fact, this is MY post. I've contributed more relevant and comprehnsive insight to it than you have.

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              #116
              Man. This is sad, RAW really has nothing to do when's not on the road driving through West V1rginia to Pennsylvania lol.

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                #117
                Just because there was no internet doesn't mean people didnt have other means of finding entertainment in the 50s, 60s and 70s. This joker, is smoking hash now.

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                • The D3vil
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by MalevolentBite

                  Why would I care if she did have a movie ? I wouldnt watch it. I didn't watch shields movie lol.

                  Why would I care if shes on good morning America? I dont watch good morning America lol.

                  Why would I care about nickelodeon? I dont have kids lol.

                  All those things have nothing to do with the average American no longer watching or supporting boxing. She can get 10 awards she will not be known by the average American.

                  Go to the white part of your town and ask them. Go online and post a video clip. Go do it. She is not well known to the average population.
                  Dude, are you purposely being obtuse or are you just dumb?.

                  The question isn't if YOU care

                  The question is whether she is MORE famous than she would be if she wasn't an Olympian & the question is NO.

                  YOU don't watch "Good Morning America", but millions of people do.

                  YOU didn't watch Nickelodeon, but millions of people do

                  YOU didn't watch her movie, but millions of people did.

                  All of that was made possible because she was in The Olympics

                  That inherently proves the value of The Olympics.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by MalevolentBite

                    OK another cop out. Location & demographics is very important in business operations, marketing and development.

                    Now i know you are lair. Because you are arguing with your emotions. Thats why you haven't provided any proof to any of your claims.

                    You say Shakur is big in the "hood" and then you are saying just because shields was on the breakfast club shes known to the average Americans ( which she isnt).

                    So I know you are black ( maybe a tether) and most likely from the east coast. Probably in a city thats culturally diverse with a high minority population.

                    Thats why you side step my statement when I said I doubt white people in your STATE know Stevenson or Shields but know other pass boxers because they appealed to all Americans and not just the urban crowd.

                    The average American isn't in the hood, listen to hot 97, watch good morning America ( I sure dont), watched shields movie or know atleast 5 of her opponents. Shes more popular than mosr female boxers because there's no othe popular female boxers between her Ali that are American and the average American knows. Amanda Serrano isnt even known to the average American.
                    It's not relevant, but I'm from the Midwest, & I aint no "tether".

                    You're just too dumb to get what I'm saying.

                    I never said Shields was a HUGE star like Serena Williams or LeBron James.

                    What I said was The Olympics made her more famous than she would've been under any other circumstances, which is 100% true.

                    There is ZERO chance that she is as famous & makes as much money as she currently does (millions of dollars) if she wasn't an Olympian first.

                    She's been headlining shows practically since she started because she was sold as an Olympian.
                    Last edited by The D3vil; 08-31-2025, 02:46 AM.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by The D3vil

                      It's not relevant, but I'm from the Midwest, & I aint no "tether".

                      You're just too dumb to get what I'm saying.

                      I never said Shields was a HUGE star like Serena Williams or LeBron James.

                      What I said was The Olympics made her more famous than she would've been under any other circumstances, which is 100% true.

                      There is ZERO chance that she is as famous & makes as much money as she currently does (millions of dollars) if she wasn't an Olympian first.

                      She's been headlining shows practically since she started because she was sold as an Olympian.
                      For the last time. She is not known to the average American. Either agree or disagree. Thats it lol.

                      This tether keeps millions but provides no receipts to the viewers of the live episode of the good morning America episode. I went online and typed in Claressa shields good morning America. One clip got only 7,000 views from four years ago. Then another video from good morning America got 900 views from good morning America from 9 years ago !!

                      Her havinv a medal is irrelevant to my topic of American boxers not being well known to the average Americans.

                      I dont got time to go back and forth with no tether.
                      Last edited by MalevolentBite; 08-31-2025, 11:27 AM.

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