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  • #41
    Originally posted by real raw View Post

    That's funny, not american. As I mentioned, government's role is strictly limited safety and oversight, not creation, which is what you are describing.

    Everything you mention is already in place, it's called the Golden Gloves and the Police Athletic League.

    "You can make anyone fight who you want them to fight" Sound like you are advocating human "****fighting".

    I added other countries because I assumed (my bad) that the reason you are advocating your system, because you are dissatified that big name fighters don't fight who you want them to fight, or often enough. I shouldn't have assumed your resoning. Many top fighters, both ameture and professional reside outside of US jurisdiction, therefore your "comission" would do little to imcrease the popularity of boxing in the US. The public wants to see the best fighters, that's what drives interest.

    You mentioned Boots, a professional fighter. A world class professional fighter. You want to make him fight in Harrisburg, PA???? wth wants to fight in Harrisburg, PA? Boots doesn't have to explain anything to you or anyone else. Who cares that he isn't doing fast food commercials. If you see an opportunity, and want to picth him on it, go for it! But don't lead with, "you have to explain to me why you aren't fighting in central PA," I doubt that's going to get you very far.

    Please explain how you thing boxing is mismanged?

    You plan is quasi ameture, quais professional. You can't have both. You are trying to enforce an ameture league system on a professional, individual centered sport. In a professional sport, pros follow the money. Nothing in your plan mentions compensation. If YOU were american, you'd understan that, lol. Use your business background to figure out how to get fighters paid, they'll flock to you. Or start your own local gym in central PA. Hosts some ameture tournaments, maybe some localised pro bouts. Create your Blue Horizon in central PA.
    If you are not American. I dont see the point of entertaining you with my point of view. It would be just a waste of my time which isnt free.


    Feel free to stay here and creep my post and jump to generalizations.

    Interesting judgement of my life lol.
    Last edited by MalevolentBite; 08-17-2025, 09:54 PM.

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    • #42
      I find it funny most non Americans are so fixated on Americans. I dont think foreigners know besides America's Geo politic government. The average American can care less what happens outside of America lol. Most Americans dont even own a passport.

      One thing about Trump. He was kinda right. America First!! Let europe handle Russia. Let the middle east handle their own problems.
      Last edited by MalevolentBite; 08-17-2025, 09:49 PM.

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      • #43
        This dude really said. How would they get paid in this league.

        when College football athletes in America are getting millions more than average top boxers before Turki came. These people are totally clueless to America.

        Arch Manning is making $6.6 million and this is his first season starting. He plays for a STATE university.
        Last edited by MalevolentBite; 08-17-2025, 09:57 PM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by MalevolentBite View Post

          If you are not American. I dont see the point of entertaining you with my point of view. It would be just a waste of my time which isnt free.


          Feel free to stay here and creep my post and jump to generalizations.

          Interesting judgement of my life lol.
          Ohh man. Your time isn't free, lol. You are the one who statred the post. No one asked you to start it, like no one asked for your solution in search of a problem. I 100 percent guarantee you that i am red, white and blue amierican. pennsylvainian by birth, and that i know and understand more about boxing that you do.

          BTW, I'm not "creeping" your post. You put it out there for discussion, I'm discussing it. Hell, outside of yourself, I'm the only one who's even bothered to reply to it. And i do it because I find it absurd.

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          • #45
            You can't get more than four people to reply to an interent post, yet you have the blueprint to revolutionalize boxing in america?

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            • #46
              Woah. So now real raw is still here talking to him self and he cant even count lol.
              Last edited by MalevolentBite; 08-18-2025, 09:35 AM.

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              • #47
                Boycott all BS set ups and rubbish match ups. Force the establishment to give all the fights the public demands. Total boycott of garbage fights.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by MalevolentBite View Post
                  Woah. So now real raw is still here talking to him self and he cant even count lol.
                  nah, i'm talking to you , malevolentbite. And I count jussst, fine. I was "guestimating" the number since there's been so little commentary outside of me and yourself. It wasn't worth the effort of an actual count.

                  But I understand why you no longer want to comment on your plan.

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                  • #49
                    Lmaooo. Raw is a clown. He cant help him self. Maybe i will entertain him later today but not now.

                    America First.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by MalevolentBite View Post

                      I agree.

                      Now name a figher an average American knows that was actually born in the 90s. That would place them atleast in the olympics in the mid 2000s.

                      I Agree and you are adding to my point thats when boxing was still popular. Boxing started to fall off 20 years after the first superbowl (popularity of American football). First superbowl was January 15, 1967. A generation after the first superbowl is post 1987-1997. Notice something? Thats when Heavyweight boxing started to decline in America and thats when boxing really started to die here.

                      The average American doesn't know shields, Stevenson, and Andre ward. They just dont and most wouldn't care.

                      What current and previous Olympic boxer does the average American knows after 1997? Wilder is probably the only one but his ppv numbers dont indicate he was well known in America like Tyson, Hagler, hearns or Leonard. Shoot Tommy Morrison was more popular at his peak than wilder.
                      A lot more people know Stevenson & Shields than would know who they are if they weren't Olympians.

                      Hell, Shields is the most famous American female boxer because she was an Olympian.

                      She had movies & documentaries made about her because she was an Olympic champion.

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