Usyk barely loses a round vs Ali's resume and never gets hurt once.

[Smash]

The recency bias towards Usyk is getting out of control. Guy had a competitive fight with ****ing Del Boy but would barely lose a round to guys like Holmes and Norton? oooookay.

im thinking it must be trolling or something or meds related it cant be real

[Haka]

So are you saying that fighters like Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Daniel Dubois were better than fighters like: Joe Frazier, Sonny Liston, Jimmy Young and Jerry Quarry?

I mean no disrespect to Oleksandr Usyk but he is a by product of his generation. We would have never known how he would fared back then because those were different fighters and times back then.

We are currently living in perhaps the worst generation of heavyweight fighters ever. So Oleksandr; Given his amateur pedigree should out shine all of the rest of the current heavyweight competition.

For example, both Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder had on average about 40 amateur bouts each. Now would Muhammad Ali be considered great for defeating those guys?

Andy Ruiz > Floyd Patterson

[QueensburyRules]

The difference between Ali and Usyk is that Usyk was the more fundamentally sound of the two but Ali would more than compensate for this failing with both his self-confidence, youth and athleticism.

Also. In the second half of Ali’s career. He admitted that he hated training. He wasn’t as dedicated or committed to the sport as Usyk is. Also, legend has it. When Ali used to have open workouts.

He would often play to the audience by entertaining them for weeks before getting focused to train.

- - Ali was notorious for being for weak training. He said when he could go 5 rounds on the heavy bag, he was ready. He mostly clowned around, laying on the ropes and ropadoping his sparring partners.

Joe Frazier was a ferocious trainer, and funny in that he otherwise looked like a lump of nothing compared to the sleek Ali with his shuffle and air jabs.

Seen 'em both train in their primes, hence Joe gutting Ali in their Fight of the Century...

[QueensburyRules]

The recency bias towards Usyk is getting out of control. Guy had a competitive fight with ****ing Del Boy but would barely lose a round to guys like Holmes and Norton? oooookay.

- - Tubby Lar getting knocked down by 350lb ButterBean...priceless...thanks for the reminder!!!

[TMLT87]

- - Tubby Lar getting knocked down by 350lb ButterBean...priceless...thanks for the reminder!!!

He was 53 years old for ****s sake

[QueensburyRules]

He was 53 years old for ****s sake

- - Poor Lar was the sucking sound after Ali, Frazier, Foreman retired.

He verbally abused the 35 year old 4 rounder Butterbean and challenged him because Bean was making more $$$ than tubby Lar.

Out of the 855 points cast vs Ken Norton, he won the most controversial split decision by 1 point which is by a 0.0012% margin thanks to the way boxing does it's idiotic scoring.

Worse, Norton the big fav with Tubby Lar who was still skinny then never having beat a top 10 Heavy, when suddenly a huge surge on Lar the week before the fight, and the promoter?

Don King...nuf said about poor Lar who was the most insecure boxing heavy I've ever witnessed for good reason!!!

[Bennyleonard99]

Usyk is clearly superior to Ali as an athlete, fighter, champion and person. Ali had more charisma and a bigger mouth but not nearly as much class. Ali made many mistakes in his career, Usyk never made one mistake. Usyk is the goat.

[champion4ever]

Andy Ruiz > Floyd Patterson

Now you are just bullshitting!

[Haka]

Now you are just bullshitting!

80lbs difference, Andy steamrolls him, Andy is no slouch can box too and has power. You are the one bull****ting thinking otherwise.

[champion4ever]

80lbs difference, Andy steamrolls him, Andy is no slouch can box too and has power. You are the one bull****ting thinking otherwise.

The fat fuck would never get his fat ass in shape to fight for 15 rounds against a Floyd Patterson. Quit being a douche!