Usyk barely loses a round vs Ali's resume and never gets hurt once.

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  • NihonJim
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    #1

    Usyk barely loses a round vs Ali's resume and never gets hurt once.

    Seriously, Foreman moved like he was stuck in treacle and would never land a glove on Usyk, as for Frazier, don't make me laugh.

    Holmes is the only one who id say would win more than a round vs Usyk but Usyk would figure out his jab within 3 or 4 rounds and sweep the last 8.

    The so called "greatest" couldn't even get away from stuff mummy Foreman and had live and death vs bum Frazier 3x
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    Usyk being southpaw is his big edge against these legendary heavies

    great southpaws are rare in heavyweight history

    In open stance Joe Louis right cross of god would get Usyk

    Frazier would get Usyk too with that body assault

    Usyk needed a standing 8 count break in the amateurs after taking a left hook to the ribs. Straight right hands downstairs work on him too

    a great body puncher in smaller pro gloves would get to him

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    • Haka
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      Usyk outfoxes them first and foremost from that point it is an uphill battle. You cannot engage in a shootout without exposing your chin on a silver platter because of the fast footwork.

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        Chisora who is the discounted made in Britain version of Joe Frazier was a handful for Usyk

        I’d pick a fighter who’s GREAT at the Swarmer style over Usyk

        Joe took the 0 of Ali who was still pretty fresh at the time
        Last edited by SouthpawRight; 08-07-2025, 02:15 AM.

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          #5
          Nobodies saying usyk can't beat Ali, or Alis opponents. People are saying Ali has wins in bag. So usyk has to get some wins in the bag too

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            #6
            Originally posted by SouthpawRight
            Chisora who is the discounted made in Britain version of Joe Frazier was a handful for Usyk

            I’d pick a fighter who’s GREAT at the Swarmer style over Usyk

            Joe took the 0 of Ali who was still pretty fresh at the time
            260lbs Chisora runs over midget Frazier

            Get real

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              The difference between Ali and Usyk is that Usyk was the more fundamentally sound of the two but Ali would more than compensate for this failing with both his self-confidence, youth and athleticism.

              Also. In the second half of Ali’s career. He admitted that he hated training. He wasn’t as dedicated or committed to the sport as Usyk is. Also, legend has it. When Ali used to have open workouts.

              He would often play to the audience by entertaining them for weeks before getting focused to train.

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                Originally posted by NihonJim
                Seriously, Foreman moved like he was stuck in treacle and would never land a glove on Usyk, as for Frazier, don't make me laugh.

                Holmes is the only one who id say would win more than a round vs Usyk but Usyk would figure out his jab within 3 or 4 rounds and sweep the last 8.

                The so called "greatest" couldn't even get away from stuff mummy Foreman and had live and death vs bum Frazier 3x
                So are you saying that fighters like Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Daniel Dubois were better than fighters like: Joe Frazier, Sonny Liston, Jimmy Young and Jerry Quarry?

                I mean no disrespect to Oleksandr Usyk but he is a by product of his generation. We would have never known how he would fared back then because those were different fighters and times back then.

                We are currently living in perhaps the worst generation of heavyweight fighters ever. So Oleksandr; Given his amateur pedigree should out shine all of the rest of the current heavyweight competition.

                For example, both Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder had on average about 40 amateur bouts each. Now would Muhammad Ali be considered great for defeating those guys?

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                • Smash
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                  are u people for real or on serious drugs if so i want some of them quick, cement legs AJ with cotton wool in his head won maybe 5 rounds v usyk LOL flubby alco fury took him all the way, usky is better then them but not by that much on the night

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                    #10
                    The recency bias towards Usyk is getting out of control. Guy had a competitive fight with ****ing Del Boy but would barely lose a round to guys like Holmes and Norton? oooookay.

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