Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Why Evander Holyfield beats Oleksandr Usyk; memories of Dwight Muhammad Qawi

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  • kafkod
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    #41
    Originally posted by The D3vil

    LOL, he lost to Michael Moorer right before he had to retire with a heart condition
    Damn. I forgot that Holyfield fucked his heart up taking steroids after moving up to HW,

    No way is a guy with heart problems beating somebody with an engine like Usyk's.

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    • kafkod
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      #42
      Originally posted by The D3vil




      You idiots have no idea what woke even means.

      Can y'all read a book or even google something for once in your lives?
      Cut away all the pseudo intellectual bullshit, and woke = anti-white racism.

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        #43
        Originally posted by JonDP
        Stopped reading this guy years ago. Inevitably, he’s going to glorify and favor black American fighters. Just no credibility.
        I don't see Breadman as racist. He's just biased towards US fighters, in the same way that many British trainer/pundits are biased towards UK fighters, and most US fighters happen to be black.

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        • JonDP
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          #44
          Originally posted by Oregonian
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          I didn’t know Usyk is black American. Perhaps neither is Joe Calzaghe is black too. Maybe the Klitchko brothers. are too? You know what, Lomachenko has to be black American because everytime Breadman proclaims Loma to be an ATG, it must be because Loma is black American.
          Every single time he defends Loma’s record and historical status, it must be because Loma is black American.

          Also you “stopped reading this guy years ago” yet here you are.
          He may defend their records but he’s never going to pick them to win against the top black American fighters in any of his hypotheticals.

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            #45
            Originally posted by kafkod

            I don't see Breadman as racist. He's just biased towards US fighters, in the same way that many British trainer/pundits are biased towards UK fighters, and most US fighters happen to be black.
            Can definitely see that.

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              #46
              Originally posted by JonDP

              He may defend their records but he’s never going to pick them to win against the top black American fighters in any of his hypotheticals.
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              Well, since you clearly “stopped reading this guy years ago”, you haven’t read many many of his expert opinions picking non-black fighters over black fighters.

              More important, most of the ATG fighters have historically been black. If you knew your history, this is a fact you’d know.

              But but but … let’s just pick one or two weight classes and see who the best fighters have been in the last 20 years.
              Can you name the top 20 WW fighters in the last 20 years? How many are white?

              Go to Heavy Weight and do the same. Other than Klitchko brothers and Usyk who was non-existent 8 years ago, how many great White HW do you see?

              The same is true with athletics, be it 100 meters or long distance. How many white guys do you see dominating vs black guys?
              Same is true with basketball, football etc.

              I don’t hear anyone bďtchďng about how no one is referencing the lack of ATG black swimmers at the Olympics or the world championships. It is a sport dominated by white guys. It’s that simple. ​

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                #47
                Originally posted by Oregonian
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                Well, since you clearly “stopped reading this guy years ago”, you haven’t read many many of his expert opinions picking non-black fighters over black fighters.

                More important, most of the ATG fighters have historically been black. If you knew your history, this is a fact you’d know.

                But but but … let’s just pick one or two weight classes and see who the best fighters have been in the last 20 years.
                Can you name the top 20 WW fighters in the last 20 years? How many are white?

                Go to Heavy Weight and do the same. Other than Klitchko brothers and Usyk who was non-existent 8 years ago, how many great White HW do you see?

                The same is true with athletics, be it 100 meters or long distance. How many white guys do you see dominating vs black guys?
                Same is true with basketball, football etc.

                I don’t hear anyone bďtchďng about how no one is referencing the lack of ATG black swimmers at the Olympics or the world championships. It is a sport dominated by white guys. It’s that simple. ​
                A lot of great fighters dominated in their eras and that’s why it’s fun to hypothesize. Styles make fights however and we will never really know who would have won. But not according to that guy, as long as they were the same color as him. And don’t get me started on what a blabbering moron he is in the corner of his fighters when they’re getting their ásses kicked. Never heard any semblance of a productive and/or realistic strategy coming out of his mouth.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by JonDP

                  A lot of great fighters dominated in their eras and that’s why it’s fun to hypothesize. Styles make fights however and we will never really know who would have won. But not according to that guy, as long as they were the same color as him. And don’t get me started on what a blabbering moron he is in the corner of his fighters when they’re getting their ásses kicked. Never heard any semblance of a productive and/or realistic strategy coming out of his mouth.
                  ———
                  You just ignored everything I asked you and then proceeded to make it a personal attack on him.
                  Just say you don’t like him. Period. I can respect that.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by MalevolentBite

                    Hey Jim Raynor you have been on here for years. I remember you had a trend about the military and its benefits. I actually left and joined the military and served my time in the military. Just rejoined boxingscene.

                    Is Boston guy still on here?
                    You know what, im not sure, I haven't been posting in nonstop boxing lately. Welcome back though, hope all is well.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                      Just look at the combinations Qawi throws. You don’t see that at cruiserweight today.

                      Freaking Zurdo Ramirez is currently a champion in that weight class. That doesn’t impress me as some great new and improved era.
                      Andy Ruiz > Qawi

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