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  • #21
    Originally posted by TheIronMike View Post
    Itauma ain't beating him. Bivol and Canelo have a better chance.
    Canelo?

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    • #22
      I still don’t think they would beat usyk but they would have a better chance of it than Parker, Kab, or Fury again, no doubt in my mind.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by LG Motel 22 View Post
        I still don’t think they would beat usyk but they would have a better chance of it than Parker, Kab, or Fury again, no doubt in my mind.
        Lets see how Itauma does againt unmotivated Whyte first.
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        • #24
          The only one I'd give any sort of chance to would be Kabayel and even then he's very sloppy at times and gets caught a bunch coming in.

          I don't see either of these troubling Usyk he has 10 times the experience than they do vs southpaws combined and I just see both as very watered down versions really.
          They're both athletically gifted but as far as skills and creativity just far too limited.

          Everyone is super high on Itauma but I see it more like if you took everything away that makes Usyk good then you're left with an Itauma

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          • #25
            Kabayel is too slow and is fish food.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
              The only one I'd give any sort of chance to would be Kabayel and even then he's very sloppy at times and gets caught a bunch coming in.

              I don't see either of these troubling Usyk he has 10 times the experience than they do vs southpaws combined and I just see both as very watered down versions really.
              They're both athletically gifted but as far as skills and creativity just far too limited.

              Everyone is super high on Itauma but I see it more like if you took everything away that makes Usyk good then you're left with an Itauma
              Itauma is 20.

              Do you want to know what Usyk was doing when he was 20?

              This

              Screenshot_2025-08-05-21-12-17-30_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg
              A 20 year old Usyk goes to sleep against a 20 year old Itauma.

              I know you are going to come out with some excuse about why it's not relevant or why it doesn't matter but I'm saying, let's be fair and balanced with our expectations shall we?
              Last edited by NihonJim; 08-05-2025, 04:17 AM.
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              • #27
                Everybody looks good hitting punching bags.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by NihonJim View Post

                  Itauma is 20.

                  Do you want to know what Usyk was doing when he was 20?

                  This

                  Screenshot_2025-08-05-21-12-17-30_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg
                  A 20 year old Usyk goes to sleep against a 20 year old Itauma.

                  I know you are going to come out with some excuse about why it's not relevant or why it doesn't matter but I'm saying, let's be fair and balanced with our expectations shall we?
                  Do you think Moses Ituama is going to develop as a fighter much more than we see now? There is a possibility that he does not improve much 'I have stated in my previous posts, that Moses Ituama seems like one of those people who mature very early in life'.

                  Note: That is why I have suggested that his team may need to capitalize on his ability real quick 'As he looks to have those Rid**** Bowe type genetics, but does he have Bowe's boxing ability? That is yet to be seen'.

                  Moses Ituama like most rookie fighters, is most likely training with a high work ethic and passion for the sport 'Even still I don't think his conditioning appears to be super great. Those are all the signs of having certain traits, which I don't think are conducive for longevity'.

                  We may be witnessing Ituama's peak now, I am not certain that his absolute peak is years from now 'He may not have that type of development curve as a fighter'.

                  To conclude: So therefore? Making this comparison between Oleksandr Uysk and Moses Ituama at the early stages of their career is irrelevant 'Moses Ituama has achieved nothing much in the sport, if his career stops right now. Former past British fighters such as David Price, Audley Harrison, Danny Williams and Michael Sprott are all miles better fighters than him'.

                  Clearly Moses Ituama has some ability, and attributes that are very easy to market and bamboozle surface level sports fans. But people must not get carried away; the boxing ring has the ability to bare all. Moses Ituama has not experience his litmus test inside the boxing ring.

                  A good promoter will try their best to shield their fighters from the reveal for as long as possible, until? The time comes. Moses Ituama is still being manufactured as a fighter and matched to win. There is nothing wrong with that, I just don't think now is the stage of his career where people should be comparing him to genuine elite level fighters'.

                  Oleksandr Uysk during his rookie years was compiling an impressive amateur resume 'Which would eventually cumulate in being a European and World Amateur Champion. And then wining the pinnacle becoming the 2012 Olympic Champion' etc.


                  Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-05-2025, 07:37 AM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by NihonJim View Post

                    I agree with you BUT Itauma is clearly on a different planet in terms of TALENT than those guys.

                    His handspeed is ridiculous, it's S+ handspeed.

                    There's still a lot of questions need answering but I understand people getting excited by a guy with the best handspeed in the division in like 20 years.
                    Time will tell…

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

                      Lets see how Itauma does againt unmotivated Whyte first.
                      If he can’t beat this version of Whyte then I’m not sure he goes far. In my opinion Whyte was much better than people give him credit for. He was top 10 for nearly a decade & has some good wins…

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